Quote Originally Posted by Oliverda View Post
[I]“Sepang”
Market: Server
What is it: Server CPU with up to 10 next-generation “Bulldozer” CPU cores
targeting 2-way highly energy efficient and cost optimized Socket C2012 platforms. Complete with three-channel DDR3 memory and integrated PCIe Gen3 I/O. Planned for introduction: 2012
Quote Originally Posted by informal View Post
Another nail in the APU coffin of Komodo () is the fact it will have to slide in AM3+ and this rules out the GPU or any other integration(PCIex ,like in Llano).I say it has to go into AM3+ since AMD probably won't launch a whole new socket a year from AM3+.
Quote Originally Posted by Oliverda View Post
“Komodo”
Market: Server and Performance Desktops
What is it? “Komodo” is AMD’s next generation CPU and is primarily intended for servers and high-performance desktops. “Komodo” will feature next-generation “Bulldozer” CPU cores and, in desktop PC platforms, is designed to couple with DirectX® 11 GPUs to provide enthusiast-level system performance. Planned for introduction: 2012
So Sepang will have integrated PCIe 3.0 and a new socket,
while the client counterpart Komodo will use external NB PCIe, and stay at AM3+ just because the socket isn't old?
We're talking about the same AMD who recently said Zambezi won't work in current boards because it would cripple the performance, but a Komodo with AM3+ sounds like hampering the CPU to me.

Besides that, AMD have no trouble telling us that the 2012 servers need new sockets even at this early stage, but they can't add "AM3+" next to the Komodo in the roadmap, like they usually do?
They avoid mentioning the socket type in the kind of slides they usually wouldn't. Making substantially different CPU dies for 1-2P server and client, it must be a first one for AMD.

I smell a new socket for Komodo, and it's part of my 2010 rant: AM3+ is a bad compromise.
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No one seems to know why the GPU is only mentioned with one of the CPU's, when both can be used with graphics cards, and neither of them are supposed to have graphics on die.
Maybe they mean integrated PCIe when they say "designed to couple with DirectX® 11 GPUs" (and not integrated GPU like I thought at first).

I can't come up with a better explanation.