AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

[cold2010]

AMD’s Cayman Christmas card delayed say Taiwanese sources

Fabless chip shop AMD was set to launch its "Cayman" GPU (aka AMD Radeon HD 6970) in the week of November 22nd - just in time for the tech-Xmas season – but reliable word from the Taiwanese street is that the product has been delayed due to yield problems at apparently not-so-fab Fab TSMC

[hurrdurr]

God dammit.

[Zloyd]

Cayman got coldfeet looking at 580 silence graphs

[Pantsu]

I'm expecting the "are you ready" marketing from AMD any time now if this turns out to be true.

Personally I can wait after Christmas. Of course it sounds bad if they really have single digit yeilds, but FUDzilla gave a totally different explanation for the possible delay, so who knows? Still rumors of delays are never good.

Demers did say they would take their time with Cayman, because the risks are lower in high end and Christmas market isn't crucial for it unlike for Barts. Better they take their time, but to me it sounded like an explanation for future delays...

[Tomasis]

AMD’s Cayman Christmas card delayed say Taiwanese sources

i smell conspiracy from nvidia+tmsc.. if nvidia 580 is released on time, then i hope Ati leaves tmsc for good!

Globalfoudries, come on..

sure im not so serious on that above

[informal]

Hmm this is mighty strange.Single digit yields and they are founding this out...now?! Two weeks from launch?? I smell BS.

[mibo]

That reminds me... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=259976

[Olivon]

Hmm this is mighty strange.Single digit yields and they are founding this out...now?! Two weeks from launch?? I smell BS.

Agreed informal, that's odd ...

[FlanK3r]

I like AMDs November (Analyst day-Zambezi, Llano etc info, HD69xx cards etc)

[E30M3]

Deja-vu any one.
nVidia problems same time last year.
6970 is here around marts 2011


http://fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20...cturing-issues

Cayman reportedly plagued by manufacturing issues

TSMC stuck at single digit yields
As we reported on Friday, AMD's upcoming Cayman appears destined for a delay or a paper launch, as some partners have still not received the boards, or final bios versions.

According to TechEye, the delay was caused by poor yields, which is supposedly in the single digit range. This is somewhat surprising, as the 40nm process is rather mature. Nonetheless, building a 3 billion transistor chip was never going to be easy, a fact clearly demonstrated Nvidia's GF100.

Taiwanese sources told TechEye that there was only a slight chance of AMD keeping its schedule and shipment targets in Q4. Cayman was originally scheduled for a November 22 launch, just in time for the holiday season. We can only hope that AMD and TSMC will manage to work out the kinks plaguing the new GPU in time to start volume shipments in early December.

[stangracin3]

erm look at your source, fud is bored and he obviously needs some traffic so his ads will pay him money anf he can go buy some weed

[E30M3]

erm look at your source, fud is bored and he obviously needs some traffic so his ads will pay him money anf he can go buy some weed

Sure?

[marten_larsson]

I'm expecting the "are you ready" marketing from AMD any time now if this turns out to be true.

Personally I can wait after Christmas. Of course it sounds bad if they really have single digit yeilds, but FUDzilla gave a totally different explanation for the possible delay, so who knows? Still rumors of delays are never good.

Demers did say they would take their time with Cayman, because the risks are lower in high end and Christmas market isn't crucial for it unlike for Barts. Better they take their time, but to me it sounded like an explanation for future delays...

It would be somewhat hilarious if AMD made fun of Nvidia's "Are you ready"-campaign. They would post something very similarly looking and then when the date passes, they actually release the card..

[Macadamia]

前几天刚刚得到消息,GTX 580的确有点危险了,HD6970性能非常给力,至少是和GTX 580是同一等级的产品.

Got a message a few days ago that the GTX 580's throne might not be as expected, performance of the 6970 is extremely impressive, at least on the same performance class as the 580.

6970 跑分低于5970，游戏好很多，驱动很烂，应该有不少提升空间。

6970 loses out on synthetics (Vantage is likely) vs 5970, but (way) better in games, bad drivers now, probably has ample room for improvement.




People have cards // NOT everyone has drivers yet

[Mechanical Man]

Well Juniper vs Cypress isn't a good direct comparision, my point was if you take the same card with same specs, only add more SPs or other units and perhaps add higher clocks too, then you'll get more inefficiency (performance won't improve as much as power consumption increases). Need internal changes if you want to improve efficiency as well. And before some1 counters with this, sometimes only rearranging the components could help too if there's a bottleneck somewhere.

Cayman is 4D, say about difference.. Go read muropaketti, Sampsa never releases news that his own sources do not confirm or not true according his under NDA information. Remember, even if you are under NDA, you can release news of others, that hit closest..

[hurrdurr]

Got a message a few days ago that the GTX 580's throne might not be as expected, performance of the 6970 is extremely impressive, at least on the same performance class as the 580.



6970 loses out on synthetics (Vantage is likely) vs 5970, but (way) better in games, bad drivers now, probably has ample room for improvement.




People have cards // NOT everyone has drivers yet

I wouldn't call 580 level perf. extremely impressive. What matters is the price, obviously. Also, if it's "way" better than 5970 in games, I wouldn't call it a 580 level card

[Macadamia]

I wouldn't call 580 level perf. extremely impressive. What matters is the price, obviously. Also, if it's "way" better than 5970 in games, I wouldn't call it a 580 level card

different sources honey

one definitely has the card but no drivers, the other claims to have both.
Normally both are reputable but who's correct this time though

[hurrdurr]

Oh, okay. Are these your sources, or have you copied them from a site/forum?

[Macadamia]

Oh, okay. Are these your sources, or have you copied them from a site/forum?

It's Chiphell's admin and another dude with connections.
AMD's really tight on leaks so nobody really knows where the performance level is, board partners/brands don't even have cards with the exact SPs yet.


Chiphell's leaks are mostly either through TuL (Powercolor) or Sapphire I presume. Not exactly sure but they've been rather reliable.

[SiliconDoc]

Oh, very interesting, the giant hot ATI power hogging failure of a video card that is breaking apart at TSMC with an extremely expensive under 10% yield that drives prices through the roof and profit into extreme losses - and indicates a very, very flawed execution and core design that will cripple and cave in use as it cooks the case to melting.

EPIC FAILURE !

Can't you say BLOWBACK !!!!!!!! ????

roflmao I am SO HAPPY !

( thanks to all those hundreds from here that attacked NVidia's 480 production since that's how I know exactly the crap ATI has crooked up now and how pathetic it is )

God this is GREAT !

I checked Charlie's hate site and he's pretending to be dumb, blind, deaf, and stupid right now, not a word on the epic failure of cayman. ROFLMAO ! hahahahahhahahhaHhahaha

I am so HAPPY ! Oh man can you say " TOTAL FACEPALM !"
Hey ATI you finally did it ! >

[Dimitriman]

Maybe JHH paid TSMC a visit on his way to Crytek...

[Dimitriman]

Oh, very interesting, the giant hot ATI power hogging failure of a video card that is breaking apart at TSMC with an extremely expensive under 10% yield that drives prices through the roof and profit into extreme losses - and indicates a very, very flawed execution and core design that will cripple and cave in use as it cooks the case to melting.

EPIC FAILURE !

Can't you say BLOWBACK !!!!!!!! ????

roflmao I am SO HAPPY !

( thanks to all those hundreds from here that attacked NVidia's 480 production since that's how I know exactly the crap ATI has crooked up now and how pathetic it is )

God this is GREAT !

I checked Charlie's hate site and he's pretending to be dumb, blind, deaf, and stupid right now, not a word on the epic failure of cayman. ROFLMAO ! hahahahahhahahhaHhahaha

I am so HAPPY ! Oh man can you say " TOTAL FACEPALM !"

Im saving this for sig material on nov 22.

[stangracin3]

Oh, very interesting, the giant hot ATI power hogging failure of a video card that is breaking apart at TSMC with an extremely expensive under 10% yield that drives prices through the roof and profit into extreme losses - and indicates a very, very flawed execution and core design that will cripple and cave in use as it cooks the case to melting.

EPIC FAILURE !

Can't you say BLOWBACK !!!!!!!! ????

roflmao I am SO HAPPY !

( thanks to all those hundreds from here that attacked NVidia's 480 production since that's how I know exactly the crap ATI has crooked up now and how pathetic it is )


God this is GREAT !

I checked Charlie's hate site and he's pretending to be dumb, blind, deaf, and stupid right now, not a word on the epic failure of cayman. ROFLMAO ! hahahahahhahahhaHhahaha

I am so HAPPY ! Oh man can you say " TOTAL FACEPALM !"
Hey ATI you finally did it ! >

since the mods haven't been here yet i am making my post nicer,

dont be an idiot

[Olivon]

Maybe JHH paid TSMC a visit on his way to Crytek...

[Dimitriman]

lol exactly!