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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides View Post
    Seems like nvidia HAS been shunning partners in favour of it's own brand supply chain
    Really ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
    Really ?
    It seems so.

    Partners claim they have not been well updated on the cards, nvidia suddenly starts selling them instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Metroid View Post


    It looks like is taking orders to deliver Monday
    Pic for proof. Only available via nvidia's own channel? It comes across as such, at least for the immediate future.

    No novatech stock, scan, aria, newegg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides View Post
    It seems so.

    Partners claim they have not been well updated on the cards, nvidia suddenly starts selling them instead.



    Pic for proof. Only available via nvidia's own channel? It comes across as such, at least for the immediate future.

    No novatech stock, scan, aria, newegg?
    New subject for Charlie ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
    New subject for Charlie ?
    Who knows?
    Maybe they'll restrict supply to nvidia channels only for a month or so until they have more stock.

    It's one way of paper launching to reap the gouging profits of initial release without paying a middleman partner profits or letting webstores also profit.

    Nvidia keeps a £399 (that's 645 dollars by the way) price until it's SMASHED down by AMD and then partners have the floodgates unleashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides View Post
    It's one way of paper launching to reap the gouging profits of initial release without paying a middleman partner profits or letting webstores also profit.
    Middleman? Partner? What are you on about?

    NVIDIA's board partners continue to be the only ones selling directly into the retail / supply channel. Past a specific promotion where Best Buy ASKED for NVIDIA-branded cards, you won't see anything but partners' cards being boxed up and shipped into the channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Middleman? Partner? What are you on about?

    NVIDIA's board partners continue to be the only ones selling directly into the retail / supply channel. Past a specific promotion where Best Buy ASKED for NVIDIA-branded cards, you won't see anything but partners' cards being boxed up and shipped into the channel.
    Except for in the picture I just posted proving this wrong. You know, the one where nvidia brands and boxes the cards themselves and screw the partners.

    Partners might get token cards but will be blueballed on actual quantitative supply until nvidia has farmed the initial release cheese from their own sales initiative.

    What I'm "on about" (go learn business pronto) Is a thing called profiteering.
    People don't work for free and there is a ponzi chain of business profit all the way from factory to shop floor.

    Nvidia designs cards, sells them for x money.
    Partner creates/receives then supplies money for x money + pp (partner profit)
    Web store or real world store receives card stock from partner and sells it for x + pp + sp (store profit)

    Stop trolling about such obvious things as middlmen. EVERYONE knows this basic stuff.

    Nvidia blueball their partners, get initial gouged sales price with TWO LEVELS of the profiteering removed.
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    Is that ad legit? One thing I did notice is that there is no partner branding on that ad, just nvidia. So I would assume that whatever card is coming would come directly from their warehouse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides View Post
    Except for in picture I just posted proving this wrong.
    Partners will get token cards, will be blueballed until nvidia has farmed the initial release cheese.

    What I'm "on about" (go learn business pronto) Is a thing called profiteering.
    People don't work for free and there is a ponzi chain of business profit all the way from factory to shop floor.

    Nvidia designs cards, sells them for x money.
    Partner creates/receives then supplies money for x money plus pp (partner profit)
    Web store or real world store receives card stock from partner and sells it for x + pp + sp (store profit)

    Stop trolling about such obvious things as middlmen. EVERYONE knows this basic stuff.
    From how many cards charlie is saying is available, he saying thousands of cards and not tens of thousands. Even if each card was sold at 1 thousand dollars and they had 10,000 card to share, both of which is inflated according to what charlie has said to illustrate a point, they would only make 10 million dollars which is petty cash for a company with 900 million dollar quarters.

    There would be no point and would just piss off the partners.

    This is the gtx 580 thread and you have done nothing but troll in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides View Post
    Nvidia designs cards, sells them for x money.
    Partner creates/receives then supplies money for x money + pp (partner profit)
    Web store or real world store receives card stock from partner and sells it for x + pp + sp (store profit)

    Stop trolling about such obvious things as middlmen. EVERYONE knows this basic stuff.

    Nvidia blueball their partners, get initial gouged sales price with TWO LEVELS of the profiteering removed.
    wow. do you understand the logistics of distribution and retail? it's in nvidia's best interest leave it to someone else. the reason why middlemen exist in the first place is to save the manufacturers money. the only tangible thing the AIB's do is put a sticker on the card, excluding custom cards. everything else is a service such as warranties, customer support, etc. yes, nvidia does that for quadro but that's a very different market where clients demand higher quality services such as custom drivers and 24hr support.

    oh and just a question: why are you ranting about nvidia profiteering and not the AIB's? you blame nvidia for cutting them off yet you are ok with them profiteering throughout your arguments. who is allowed to profiteer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides View Post
    Except for in the picture I just posted proving this wrong. You know, the one where nvidia brands and boxes the cards themselves and screw the partners.

    Partners might get token cards but will be blueballed on actual quantitative supply until nvidia has farmed the initial release cheese from their own sales initiative.
    No.

    You are mistaking a placeholder ad for an actual ad. Big mistake.

    Plus, NVIDIA runs their own marketing campaigns in parallel with board partners' own.

    Hence things like THIS.


    Plus, I can promise you the ad you showed is not from NVIDIA but rather a creation from a retailer. So where does that leave your logic?
    Last edited by SKYMTL; 11-07-2010 at 04:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
    New subject for Charlie ?
    maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
    New subject for Charlie ?
    Maybe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
    Really ?
    Seriously, let's wait for launch and see what's what. My money is still on cards being available by year end...contrary to what Charlie says.

    Plus, if you ask ANY board partner about this card, they will plead the fifth. Why? Well, because they are under a very strict NDA due to all the leaks that happened with past launches.

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