Tomorrow?Late October
Tomorrow?Late October
They probably tested them in house and discovered that they can't perform that well compared to what we have already. They will probably redesign it about 5-10 times and come up with the same conclusion that you can't really improve much from what we got now. Then they will try some marketing gimmic to still try and sell them. But who knows only time will tell. All I know is they will have to give us at least a 2*C improvement from the best radiator on the market currently and be priced within 10 -20% for them to even sell.
i do hope skinnee can give us some more details about performance test
if they add blingy lights inside (maybe a cold cathode to replace one of the middle tubes) they could price them in some absurd category and probably sell pretty good.
well... sell pretty good to people who don't read tests and only go by marketing.
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So you're saying I could use my own pee as coolant?
The delay means my testing gets delayed as well... can't run performance tests without a radiator.i do hope skinnee can give us some more details about performance test
http://www.dazmode.com/store/index.p...&cPath=154_155
http://www.dazmode.com/
I'm expecting the new Feser lineup to turn into the Duke Nukem Forever of liquid cooling...
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I wonder if recently released radlines performance (like that of TA/RX V2) made win too small, or they noticed heavy shouting in forums about aluminium and those were the reasons to redesign to something they can brag about again?
[offtopic]Skinnee! Where are results of TA rads?![/offtopic]
Had some prototypes come in that took priority.[offtopic]Skinnee! Where are results of TA rads?!
Interested in that too.[offtopic]Skinnee! Where are results of TA rads?!
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My Water Cooling Case Build (closed)
I guess, to someone might be interesting read (interview with rad developers). Main points - aluminium nowhere in touch with water, rads can be easily painted, no nano coating, as there were few problems with it, so they decided to drop such expensive process. I cannot count answer of 'damn good' as quantifyable relative cooling performance, so it still is up to real tests to find out the truth.
1: Aluminium only external and no contact with the water.
2: The wall-thickness of the stainless tube is only 0,2mm, unsure low speed fans will impact.
4: Nano-coating too expensive, complicate and not needed anymore.
It looks like that some of the new hyped features were removed.
Everything is justified. Like any other product, Admirals have several revisions of engineering samples. They would had been launched long ago. But, early publication of Admiral specification on hw-lab.com triggered lots of negative feedback. As a result, Feser had to think of a different version of Admirals radiators which required additional test conduction (it was for our own good). Therefore, specifications are changed and product launch is delayed.
Factotum: Negative feedback? As in something about rad dimensions or about materials used? (i'm curious in what exactly was most significant for Feser to decide a redesign). To me it looked (if one ignores Feser as company bashing which made up 3/4ths of negative comments here) rest was made mostly about aluminium part. I wonder if early samples had aluminium inside water tubes aswell ..
Everything you said is the common basic of a product development and this is not the point. The point is that they claimed the nano-coating feature as described on the product's website and is not going to happen. I would have taken your point into consideration if they had not even mentioned and or published the nano coating. They blow this one and this is a fact.
@churchy
Right now, it does not really matters. The important thing is the radiators production has been reconsidered for the better, since the final product should be free from drawbacks.
I'm going to guess there was alu inside the tubes, but were covered in nano-plating...but they couldn't get nano-plating to work right so they ditched the alu?
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That dev doesn't seem very smart... higher flow rate means better performance if heatdump is controlled.
Interesting. First there were speculation on whether these rad will have alu or copper inside,WTF is than nano-coating for. Now when all of that is scattered and facts are presented, you still continue to guess
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Factotum: Well, i'm 95% shure that one of drawbacks will still be there (higher price). But if they manage to pull off with best performance, they can also charge a bit higher price. Problem with their previous rads was that they charged premium anyway without real top performance to justify it except backing with pushy advertising.
At the end imho swiftech seems to have made smarter business decision. I'm guessing that they get same profit from each unit sold from their cheap MCR rads as TFC will from admiral (taking into account higher manufacturing price of admiral), but swiftech wins in much larger sold volumes. 95% performance of top for half of it's price imho works better then 110% of previous top for 1.5x the price (of course, these numbers are guesstimated speculation of mine).
incorrect for rads
@churchy:
I think the Feser will not hear us
Last edited by Factotum; 11-03-2010 at 12:54 PM.
Taking too long >_<
Im ready for a 2nd rad in my loop ... come on with it!
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that link is about liquid flow rate, we're talking fan/air here, also he proves himself wrong later in the thread.
Last edited by ryan92084; 11-03-2010 at 04:25 PM.
The material, these radiators are made of, is aluminum and stainless-steel.
http://hw-lab.com/feser-admiral-radi...acts-only.html
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