Aquatuning/Phobya Fail

[Elpy]

Here in the UK, those images are my intellectual property and I have copyright over them by default. I have the original 3D files.

Then you should contact them. We cant really help with that

[Aquatuning]

Hi Guys,

Let me step in to clear this one up for you before the trolls get let out again

Ok so the competition as it has been stated many times we are not trying to get something designed for free, we already have a range of cases on the way that have been designed in house.

The idea of the comp is to finally give the community a say so the community designs it, the community votes for it and we build it now of course we will make a profit on the units sold by this is to cover setup, production, staffing.

If you rather we can let you design the case and pay for all the tooling etc - bet you not a fan of that idea.

So the winner gets a case, they get to name the case and they get watercooling in the case. Based on the small qtys that will be made because of the very niche designs the prizes given will far out way any royalties of sales.

We dont have to do this for you but as people are constantly crying out for something like this to happen we thought we would give it a go.

So if you want to have a go like many others have and are enjoying please enter. If you DO NOT agree with the comp JUST DONT ENTER as after all you would not want to fuel the mythical watercooling devils that you have heard all those naughty stories about of the everso factual place called the interwebs

As for Oliver as you have had it explained to you the video was created by Bit-tech so it is nothing to do with Aquatuninging or Bit-tech and as you also know you gave Bit-tech free reign with your work by posting on the forum. You have been contacted by Bit-tech take it up with them.

For any more serious questions about the contests I will be here to help

[Tremeloes]

So if you want to have a go like many others have and are enjoying please enter. If you DO NOT agree with the comp JUST DONT ENTER as after all you would not want to fuel the mythical watercooling devils that you have heard all those naughty stories about of the everso factual place called the interwebs

As for Oliver as you have had it explained to you the video was created by Bit-tech so it is nothing to do with Aquatuninging or Bit-tech and as you also know you gave Bit-tech free reign with your work by posting on the forum. You have been contacted by Bit-tech take it up with them.

For any more serious questions about the contests I will be here to help

thanks for stepping in to clear up this (and for offending people with other views right in the first sentence ).

you write "If you DO NOT agree with the comp JUST DONT ENTER". hmm, looks like oliverw92 doesn´t want to enter. anyhow his case idea was used in a promotion video for the contest.

how can you say, that this video does not have anything to do with AT? as far as i can read it is a contest started by bit.tech and AT and this is the promotion video for it. even if you don´t have produced this video you are the sponsor for this whole thing. shouldn´t it be in your interest that there are no disagreements in this video? otherwise it might look like it´s ok for you to use other peoples work.

just for my personal interest, what mythical watercooling devils do you mean?

[Sadasius]

@ Aquatuning - Who let you guy's out of the dog house? Aquatuning is not exactly an honest place of business for all their crap they have caused. Don't be giving these creeps your designs. It is all they want and your not going to get crap. As already pointed out they took another persons build picture in their presentation without asking. You guys can do what you want but I am not for sale to these creeps and I am deeply opposed to them even being here as it is offensive to all the manufacturers we support. Related material found here... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=226794

[Aquatuning]

thanks for stepping in to clear up this (and for offending people with other views right in the first sentence ).

you write "If you DO NOT agree with the comp JUST DONT ENTER". hmm, looks like oliverw92 doesn´t want to enter. anyhow his case idea was used in a promotion video for the contest.

how can you say, that this video does not have anything to do with AT? as far as i can read it is a contest started by bit.tech and AT and this is the promotion video for it. even if you don´t have produced this video you are the sponsor for this whole thing. shouldn´t it be in your interest that there are no disagreements in this video? otherwise it might look like it´s ok for you to use other peoples work.

just for my personal interest, what mythical watercooling devils do you mean?

Correct this why we have been in disscussion with Bit-tech and the video is being swapped for one that does not include the case.

@ Aquatuning - Who let you guy's out of the dog house? Aquatuning is not exactly an honest place of business for all their crap they have caused. Don't be giving these creeps your designs. It is all they want and your not going to get crap. As already pointed out they took another persons build picture in their presentation without asking. You guys can do what you want but I am not for sale to these creeps and I am deeply opposed to them even being here as it is offensive to all the manufacturers we support. Related material found here... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=226794

Thanks for that but hes already posted a link to that thread

[Sadasius]

Thanks for that but hes already posted a link to that thread

Your welcome...Here let me post it again as you could use some advertising....http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=226794

[Aquatuning]

Thank you,

Any advertising is good advertising as they say

[oliverw92]

I think you have your copyright information wrong. Posting my worklog on a forum does NOT give a website the right to use my images and post them over the internet without my permission.

And yes it IS your problem. If your company had any morals you would care that a prominent modder in the community is not happy about something and you would do the best that you can to fix it, rather than just offload the blame to someone else.

I want my photo removed from that video by tomorrow or I will take further action.

[Aquatuning]

I think you have your copyright information wrong. Posting my worklog on a forum does NOT give a website the right to use my images and post them over the internet without my permission.

And yes it IS your problem. If your company had any morals you would care that a prominent modder in the community is not happy about something and you would do the best that you can to fix it, rather than just offload the blame to someone else.

I want my photo removed from that video by tomorrow or I will take further action.

As you are more then aware Bit-tech are working on that now and in some places like our youtube channel the video has already been removed.

[Monkey Puzzled]

Hi Guys,

Let me step in to clear this one up for you before the trolls get let out again

Ok so the competition as it has been stated many times we are not trying to get something designed for free, we already have a range of cases on the way that have been designed in house.

The idea of the comp is to finally give the community a say so the community designs it, the community votes for it and we build it now of course we will make a profit on the units sold by this is to cover setup, production, staffing.

If you rather we can let you design the case and pay for all the tooling etc - bet you not a fan of that idea.

So the winner gets a case, they get to name the case and they get watercooling in the case. Based on the small qtys that will be made because of the very niche designs the prizes given will far out way any royalties of sales.

We dont have to do this for you but as people are constantly crying out for something like this to happen we thought we would give it a go.

So if you want to have a go like many others have and are enjoying please enter. If you DO NOT agree with the comp JUST DONT ENTER as after all you would not want to fuel the mythical watercooling devils that you have heard all those naughty stories about of the everso factual place called the interwebs

As for Oliver as you have had it explained to you the video was created by Bit-tech so it is nothing to do with Aquatuninging or Bit-tech and as you also know you gave Bit-tech free reign with your work by posting on the forum. You have been contacted by Bit-tech take it up with them.

For any more serious questions about the contests I will be here to help

Based on your company's trademark smash and grab shenanigans, it's not surprising people are wary that you're trying to use the modding community to design you a case. Cases designed to hold watercooling internally may be niche, but companies such as corsair, mountain mods and danger den are no doubt making profit on their water-cooling cases, as I'm sure you will.

Did Corsair design the 800 case thinking the profits they made from it would be less than the cost of making a case and putting some watercooling in it? Really?! Out of interest, does your new range of cases that you mention include cases that also fit the water-cooling design brief you've set out for this competition?

Call me cynical, but the fact you've stipulated a design brief and insisted "the case must be easy to produce" doesn't sound like you're trying to help a modders design come to be, it sounds like you are looking for a cheap means of getting a design to mass produce.

And as for saying:

If you rather we can let you design the case and pay for all the tooling etc - bet you not a fan of that idea.

....The competition is in the modding section of bit-tech. I'm sure most people reading that section of the forum are actually pretty big fans of that idea.

It doesn't sound very much like you're doing this out of the kindness of your hearts to help the modding community when you then also tell Oliver that bit-tech has the rights to any images he's posted there, and so you're free to use them. No apology, no "sorry, someone should have asked you, can we use your images?"? Not great PR...

Under UK law as I understand it, the copyright images automatically reside with the creator of the featured piece, and whoever took the photos, if taking the photos itself involves some creative/artistic/technical merit. Bit-tech doesn't have a terms and conditions page stipulating that they own the copyright to any content posted as certain sites like facebook do.

So no, you (and Bit-tech, your hosting partner in this competition) don't have the right to use his images as far as I can see.