AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

[Jowy Atreides]

AMD promotes Cayman as the new R300

- fud title but if AMD actually are comparing Cayman to RV300 ..then wow.


They expect it to best the 580.

[Calmatory]

- fud title but if AMD actually are comparing Cayman to RV300 ..then wow.


They expect it to best the 580.

There was no RV300 and the V indicates Value. But I really doubt that AMD themselves are considering such a comparison anything but a inside joke at best.

[kadozer]

Yeah I should've checked fudo's other rumor posts. He contradicts himself here a day before his R300 headline http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/ite...man-is-sampled

Can't call it the R300 if based on the linked description. Just covering his bases.

[Solus Corvus]

I'm really curious how AMD will handle the power consumption in Antilles. Both manufacturers are soon going to run into power walls with their new designs unless they are willing to break spec or a new spec comes out that increases the limit.

For Antilles I could imagine a few solutions. First is the obvious: use cut-down and/or underclocked chips to keep it just under the power limit.

Another solution could be to reduce the other components on the board. If they made the GPUs communicate directly instead of over PCI-e they could ditch the PLX chip. And if they made the GPUs able to share the same ram they could use half the number of ram chips for the same memory size.

Or they could supply it with an external power supply.

[spursindonesia]

If nVidia can pull a GTX 295 using dual GT200b chip sized 480 mm^2 with TDP under 300w, basically a dual GTX 275 which has 215 w TDP of its own, i think AMD is competent enough to match that feat.

[zerazax]

If nVidia can pull a GTX 295 using dual GT200b chip sized 480 mm^2 with TDP under 300w, basically a dual GTX 275 which has 215 w TDP of its own, i think AMD is competent enough to match that feat.

Yeah I was going to point that out. I don't think size is the matter, seeing as how Nvidia did it with a giant chip, it's just a matter of figuring out power usage

[Mad Pistol]

The new R300 eh? That means the Cayman based cards are going to be epic.

Also, R300 didn't use that much power, either.

[Sn0wm@n]

if cayman is epic i cant wait for only 1 antilles

[Dimitriman]

if cayman is epic i cant wait for only 1 antilles

I dont even wanna know the price of that card. I already posted a video before with what its going to feel like to purchase antilles. Its quite accurate.

[tbone8ty]

id be funny/cool if the antilles only came with a watercooling kit

[Dimitriman]

Antilles facts:

Fact 1 - You do not place antilles on your motherboard. You assemble your motherboard over and around antilles.

Fact 2 - Antilles will be so long, you will not be able to install hard drives - all your hd bays now exist only to fit Antilles. From there on you may only access external hard drives.

Fact 3 - When playing games with Antilles, all graphics settings from all know games shall have only one mode: "You win" mode. It will be the only card to make all games playable on that setting.

[Sn0wm@n]

antilles can play crysis 2

[Mad Pistol]

Antilles facts:

Fact 1 - You do not place antilles on your motherboard. You assemble your motherboard over and around antilles.

Fact 2 - Antilles will be so long, you will not be able to install hard drives - all your hd bays now exist only to fit Antilles. From there on you may only access external hard drives.

Fact 3 - When playing games with Antilles, all graphics settings from all know games shall have only one mode: "You win" mode. It will be the only card to make all games playable on that setting.

Fact 4 - The GPU cooler on Antilles does not cool it. It is designed to exhaust the awesomeness off of Antilles.

[tajoh111]

Antilles facts:

Fact 1 - You do not place antilles on your motherboard. You assemble your motherboard over and around antilles.

Fact 2 - Antilles will be so long, you will not be able to install hard drives - all your hd bays now exist only to fit Antilles. From there on you may only access external hard drives.

Fact 3 - When playing games with Antilles, all graphics settings from all know games shall have only one mode: "You win" mode. It will be the only card to make all games playable on that setting.

That really makes me wonder, how are they going to make such a massive card. Cayman chips are supposedly bigger than cypress and significantly more power hungry. Unless they completely castrate the cayman chips(considering they underclocked the 5970 so much), they are going to need a monster cooler and very likely long card. If the 5970 was 13 inches, when how long is antilles going to be? I actually wouldn't mind a 14-16 inch card. It might just barely fit in my corsair 800d, but if I am going to pay 700+ dollars for it, I want my card to feel substantial. Also they better put two 8 pin connectors this time, they are going to have to underclock it anyways and a 6 and a 8 pin don't feel like enough this time around.

[Dimitriman]

Fact 5 - Only the speed of Antilles is faster than the speed of thought.

Fact 6 - Antilles is its own element in the chemistry table denoted by the symbol "Win".

[Dimitriman]

That really makes me wonder, how are they going to make such a massive card. Cayman chips are supposedly bigger than cypress and significantly more power hungry. Unless they completely castrate the cayman chips(considering they underclocked the 5970 so much), they are going to need a monster cooler and very likely long card. If the 5970 was 13 inches, when how long is antilles going to be? I actually wouldn't mind a 14-16 inch card. It might just barely fit in my corsair 800d, but if I am going to pay 700+ dollars for it, I want my card to feel substantial. Also they better put two 8 pin connectors this time, they are going to have to underclock it anyways and a 6 and a 8 pin don't feel like enough this time around.

yes all very true statements im wondering also..

[Solus Corvus]

Fact 7 - These aren't facts.

[highoctane]

Antilles is the technoviking!

[Duniek]

Fact 5 - Only the speed of Antilles is faster than the speed of thought.

I love that kind of posts , bcoz in year 2013 we can laugh about them so hard
and some kids will think, what about this guy thought, my low profile HD9450 is faster than antilles

[Chrono Detector]

Still 1GB of VRAM... I was expecting 2GB at least. Also, since they said the die is big I wonder if its still a 256 bit or a 512 bit.

[Sn0wm@n]

Fact 5 - Only the speed of Antilles is faster than the speed of thought.

Fact 6 - Antilles is its own element in the chemistry table denoted by the symbol "Win".

i love these facts .. keep em comming

Antilles is the technoviking!

WIN!!!!!!

[Chickenfeed]

Fact 8 : Antilles is the only known entity to emit awesomeness greater than that of Chuck Norris.

.... it was so coming.

[spursindonesia]

That really makes me wonder, how are they going to make such a massive card. Cayman chips are supposedly bigger than cypress and significantly more power hungry. Unless they completely castrate the cayman chips(considering they underclocked the 5970 so much), they are going to need a monster cooler and very likely long card. If the 5970 was 13 inches, when how long is antilles going to be? I actually wouldn't mind a 14-16 inch card. It might just barely fit in my corsair 800d, but if I am going to pay 700+ dollars for it, I want my card to feel substantial. Also they better put two 8 pin connectors this time, they are going to have to underclock it anyways and a 6 and a 8 pin don't feel like enough this time around.

yes all very true statements im wondering also..

AMD won't be the first graphic IHV that try to fit two 200+ w TDP chip into a single card with 300 w TDP limit, nVidia actually did that earlier with their GTX 295 (dual GTX 275 TDP 215 w), and successfully complied with PCIE sig limit of 300 w of a single slot PCIE device.

As much as i want AMD to squeeze as much performance out of Cayman chip, i don't believe the individual TDP of Cayman XT card would exceed that GTX 275 number. They don't want their own version of baconator, LOL.

GTX 295 has the same length of its single chip card brother, GTX 285. AMD went conservative with HD 5970 in lengthening its dual chip board, so the thermal & noise characteristics would improve (considering the market segment it aimed, the decision is quite understandable).

I'm sure Hemlock's length was already within the frontier of what consumers would accept, so i don't think Antilles would be any longer. The non reference board might grow wider though, if the AIBs try extract the final clock out of this monster chip & not adhering to PCIE sig limit (atleast in OCing).

[kuroikenshi]

Fact 4 - The GPU cooler on Antilles does not cool it. It is designed to exhaust the awesomeness off of Antilles.

well since you obviously know this as you apparently designed it... since your avatar is a large cpu cooler....
so tell me, based on what awful design flaws will Antilles not be able to cool itself? I am just asking simply because I never met anybody from the GPU designer team, and judging by the way you talk you seem to be one.... good on ya

[Kain665]

In Soviet Russia... Antilles buys you!