Nvidia confirms the GTX 580

[tajoh111]

Man... i was occupied with work and i was worried sick about task i'm to perform... but then you come and... I want whatever you're on!

Nvidia screwed up badly... just because your competitor is better, doesn't mean you have an automatic right to deceive people left, right and center. Jensen is too egotistical, and some Nvidia fans, just wow!!!

AMD's 6 series cards which we see (Barts) they're supposed to be replacement for 5770 and lower cards... They're from a new generation. It's like moving from Nehalem to Sandy Bridge from Intel.

What with you guys trying to antagonize other people and start flaming wars?

This new generation of fans is really making this forum a worse place.

Anyways, it doesn't give you the right but marketing wise it makes far more sense. If NV kept the gtx 4xx moniker, they would likely sell less cards because of it. This is because a lot of people put weight in naming, they would be thinking its still last generations card which is half true. This is an act of desperation for a company that has fallen behind in the development cycle when it comes to performance per watt(they still compete quite well for performance). This naming scheme has nothing to do with Jensen and everything to do with market conditions and a flawed product.

None the less your getting more performance for likely the same or less money, which in turn helps lessen the blow of AMD new naming scheme and products. Its kind of a move for AMD to shift its naming upward, just as it was a move for NV to rebrand cards.

Since your all about criticizing naming schemes by consequence of what your saying against Nvidia for trying to deceive it customers, what do you think of AMD latest naming tactics. When your beating up your competitors at selling cards, why start shifting your naming scheme so it is more confusing for customers, when you already have the advantage? Nvidia is doing part of this out of desperation and because the market demands it. Why is AMD doing it?

AMD is just doing it so people swallow the barts price easier because most people would have a hard time paying 239 and 179, when last generations 577x series were 159 and 129. It's dishonest because never in the history of ATI videocards has buying a card in the same series gotten you lower performance(besides when a naming scheme changes entirely). Still even if AMD didn't drop the price and kept barts xt priced as it is, I think all of us would have appreciated the naming scheme to stay 67xx because it is more honest. Barts codename was rv940 which for the longest time was AMD midrange. If we accept barts xt as a next generation midrange, its performance is inline where it should have been, but its price is significantly higher than people thought, as alot of people were thinking barts xt was going to be under 200 dollars.

Both naming acts are dishonest, but a lot more people are suffering from AMD naming scheming because if you do your research and all that jazz, you will likely to be able to sidestep both problems and with both naming schemes. However by pricing Barts XT for what it is, people that want to buy a card at around 150-100 are SOL and have to settle for last generations stuff as roadmaps indicate that the 57xx gen not being discontinued. AMD going to make more money, but this probably doesn't benefit the consumer.