ASUS AMD Beta BIOS Releases

[Leeghoofd]

First upgrade ya cooling. So you are doing 4ghz/3000Mhz NB speed on boxed cooler ? Impressive

FYI Ganged kills performance... Sweetspot is somewhere else on this board...

I'm so puzzled by your posts, most of my GPU's don't even like anything above 115-120Mhz for 3D... Have you seen a performance increase with real tilme stuff with such high PCI-E speeds ?

[crazydiamond]

and i thought i was ed up

[FlanK3r]

i got at BOX 4150 MHz wprime 1024M and 4550 MHz validation .

[NEOAethyr]

I've only seen small increases with higher pci and pcie speeds.

Generally these days the mem bandwith doesn't change with an increase of the pci/pcie bus like it used to.
Mainly what I want it for is pcsx2.
That thing is pretty hungry for vga texture upload bandwith.
Increasing to 150mhz might net say 4fps more but I haven't checked.
Lowering from 9t in mem to my 8-9-7t timings got me another 5fps in pcsx2 though.

5fps in pcsx2, is not that small .
Especially when you're fighting to get it past 60fps with a cpu at 4ghz .
(in certain cases, some ps2 games use need alot more power)

What I'de like to do is keep the pcie bus 1:1 with the fsb or 2:1 (500 pcie : 250mhz fsb).

In the past I haven't had much probs getting higher then normal bus speeds.
It all depends on the board.
Some board can clock good, most can't.
This asus ch4 seems like it can though.
150mhz is doable I know it is.
On my dfi ut 790fx-m2r 250mhz pcie, the limit in the bios, was pretty easy to do with a few bumps of the voltages.

Not all cards can doit though.
Most nvidia cards can.
The vga card's mem gets power hungry at higher bus speeds though, always seems to on every single card I've tried.
Sometimes I don't need to do anything, but other timees I need to up the bus voltage.

If I remember right, the south bridge needed a tiny bit more voltage on my older board too, I think it used the pcie bus to comm between the nb and sb.
I should probably double check that on this board...


I just thaught about something.
I redid the heatsinks on this board twice so far.
The 1st time my nb temps got over 60c when before hand it reached around 40c.
I had moved the screws to diff spots on the board, pwm, sb and nb screws.
When I put it back together it worked better.
Back to around the 40's for nb temp.

If the nb was having a prob that would explain my vga card probs, I think the pcie lanes for the top pcie slot are hooked to the nb and not the sb.
At least it was that way on my dfi.

If grinding down all of the screws a few mm helps I might just try that.
Might be my prob right there...


Yeah my cpu is a nice one, I'm surprised it does 4ghz on stock cooling myself.

I do need to replace my modded enermax 350w psu though lmao.
I really think I'm cutting it close with that thing.

I'll brb
Edit:

Cpu voltage: -0.0625v
Cpu-nb voltage: 1.125v

I have c&q enabled, with turbo enabled.
14x cpu ratio, turbo @ 16x.
It works well enough, the voltages are a bit higher then what I really need though.

I'll post my bench in everest.
Some of my secondary timings are higher then what they probably need to be though, I up'ed them thinking I was fixing my vga issue, lol..

Err attachments not working in opera...

[Alex-Ro]

Can you please shut the *** up and stop talking bull?250MHZ on pci-e is fantasy,never done or could be ever attainable.Give us some proof,i could easily say i got 5 GHZ CPU-Nb but i have no proof...i mean come on...

[NEOAethyr]

I don't know how I'm gonna do that when my dfi board isn't put together.
That and everest is the only one I knew of that showed that info, and now it seems to don't anymore, at least on this board it doesn't.

The dfi is going to my mom so I'll check everest when I put it together for her.

Dfi club is down so all of my posts related to figuering out how to get 250mhz stable are gone.

I'm not lying about it, I don't see what is so hard to believe.
It's pretty easy to do...

Even if everest could show me the pcie speed on this specific board, well, with what it shows for fsb I wouldn't trust it.
Supposed to say 250mhz fsb...
But it says 271.
But anyways to make you happy I'll post a screenshot of 250mhz pcie in a few days.


Edit:
New bios out for the ch4.
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...-ASUS-1102.zip
Ftp dates it to 09-10.

I'm glad since the 905 bios that the built in bios flasher doesn't lockup when it finds fat64 partitions lol.
That used to suck.

Err nm, it's an old bios, I allready had that one.
Stupid date confused me.
With it being 10-9 today.
lol :\

Ok one more edit:
Latest everest beta fixes the fsb readings.
Still no pcie reading though.

I'll build my mom's system tonight I guess so I can get this out of the way.

[Tonyb]

It says 271 because you have the FSB on 271, a FSB of 271 gives me exactly the same memory speed, CPU/NB and HT frequency and memory bandwidth. Your full of s**t.

[NEOAethyr]

No I was at 250mhz fsb, not 271...
Newest everest beta fixes that on that screen.

Benchmark and overclock pages didn't have that prob though.

Besides, I have a heck of a time at 275mhz, I wouldn't be messing around at speed when I need 266 stable 1st.

Edit:
Now I would be full of it if I said this was stable ->
I can't use superpi mod ver's on my systems, but don't believe me, I'm full of ^^.
Ehh whatever.

[nex_73]

and weed cost money too...

And right there i stopped to read/care...
Where is a moderator when you need one?
Put/Move all his b*s* in a own thread, and after that also remove this post as it won't be needed anymore.
We are discussing current/upcoming beta bioses in this thread, nothing else please!

[I.nfraR.ed]

And where's Prime95 screen? I bet it will shut down/lock up/blue screen in a minute, or immediately. I haven't seen any stability screen - only everest memory benchmark and SPi...common, this doesn't proof anything.
And as nex_73 said - this belongs to another thread, but I couldn't resist writing something about these insane posts. Your system is crashing randomly? Guess what - it's not stable!

[Leeghoofd]

It says 271 because you have the FSB on 271, a FSB of 271 gives me exactly the same memory speed, CPU/NB and HT frequency and memory bandwidth. Your full of s**t.

He didn't say 250Mhz PCI-E, he said clearly 250FSB or HT clock for the everest screenshot... keep open mind guys...

I'm already shocked the rig boots at the clocks with them volts (undervolting the VID)... must be a gem CPU... I need 1.41Vcore to get 4Ghz stable with only 2750Mhz NB and 2000Mhz on the rams...

But indeed we need some more proof to believe it...


Keep on topic...

[Tonyb]

Quote (No I was at 250mhz fsb, not 271...
Newest everest beta fixes that on that screen.)

I use the same beta version and 250 fsb shows as 250 and 271 as 271.
250 bus is a 25% overclock, if you look at his benchmark he has a 33% overclock. Also if you work it out you get that memory speed and CPU/NB frequency with a 271 fsb not 250.

My apologies if this is off thread.

[Brockmonster]

talkin Of beta bios is there goinn to be a fix for the 3870x2 graphics cards Errors In The Event viewer

Driver PCI returned invalid ID for a child device (AA854810B5000EDF60)

[Cyberlink_20]

Come on already where is the bios for the M3NHT Deluxe. Asus do you even care anymore god all the other companies have had stable bios's for months, why don't you. Please release a beta soon I want my hexacore to work. I am using my 955 at 4GHZ right now until a beta comes out if it even does.

[stangracin3]

Cyber go ask them to mod a bios at Bios-mods.com

[zoomee]

+1 to a reduction on boot time please.

It takes longer to boot my mainboard than load my operating system!
Sits there for nearly 10 to 15 seconds from the moment I press power - to the point it get to the initial BIOS screen!

And before you guys ask - no I ain't got any Asus expressgate rubbish enabled or anything like that lol!

thanks in advance

[brane01]

+1 to a reduction on boot time please.

It takes longer to boot my mainboard than load my operating system!
Sits there for nearly 10 to 15 seconds from the moment I press power - to the point it get to the initial BIOS screen!

And before you guys ask - no I ain't got any Asus expressgate rubbish enabled or anything like that lol!

thanks in advance

Yes, definetly a downside. Asus fix this also for M3A79T.

[Oliverda]

Is there a chance to manually control (independently from the voltages) the leds on the Crosshair IV Formula via BIOS? If I could set them to red that would be great.

[pershoot]

hi bingo.

any luck on qualifying the new 890fx (crosshair iv) bioses for beta testing?

[generics_user]

Is there a chance to manually control (independently from the voltages) the leds on the Crosshair IV Formula via BIOS? If I could set them to red that would be great.

i know that you can turn them off seperately; no clue if you can set the colours manually (well you can by massively overvolting your entire rig )

will take a look at the bios tomorrow and report back

[Daveburt714]

I'm just curious....

Has Asus given up on C4F bios now that the Extreme is out?
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but there are still quite a a few problems with a board that I paid close to $300 for...

Votage fluctuations are still a problem, there's still a floating HTRef (better but not fixed) and Turbo Core is still virtually useless.

On top of that, I haven't seen or heard anything about new bios for well over 5 weeks, be it beta or release.

I've been an Asus fan since the M3A79-T Deluxe, but I'm pretty disappointed with the support for what I thought was a top of the line board....

I upgrade often (probably too much), and quite honestly I think I'll be looking at MSI or Gigabyte for my next mobo purchase, especially if I'm going to go for top of the line...

[CrimInalA]

Despite the fact that I love a topic for new beta bios releases (thanks Bingo13) , I have to say I'm quite disappointed with the frequency of updates and quality of the bioses alltogether .

[Leeghoofd]

A new platform is launched soon, think most of the focus is on there to get it out at the launch date... think we all need to hold on and be patient

[skill123]

Few updates from bingo with big intervals BUT he doesn't have to do that and yet he does so BIG thanks.

M3A79-T Deluxe user here

But what makes me a little upset is ASUS ; from 09.07.2010 when they posted the 1608 BIOS till now they still didn't updated the CPU suport list
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx
If you search by CPU you don't find any info that M3A79-T Deluxe supports x6 CPU's
If you search by Motherboard you don't find any X6 CPU's to be supported

So ,for a normal user that only uses ASUS webpage for information x6 CPU's are not supported by M3A79-T Deluxe.

Lucky me that i know this forum.

Those that think this is ASUS tactic to manipulate users to update the card maybe are right maybe are wrong but one thing is clear users dont have to chose an ASUS card again.

Anyway , Bingo we are waiting for your updates; and maybe u give to the ASUS team that make updates to the webpage a kick in the right direction

[diddi35]

No news for the M4A79 yet?