ASUS AMD Beta BIOS Releases

[Dazog]

Update-
1. 890GX board having problems with two NV cards - Random beyond belief in regression testing, but after checking several user configurations we have the problem narrowed down to certain vBIOS inconsistences between cards, drivers, and the BIOS. Working on a final solution now.
2. 890FX - beta BIOS releases with greater LLC control coming soon.
3. M4A/M4N/M3A/M3N - Finally have some AGESA code tweaks coming that will tighten up the voltages on the X6 family and allow slightly better overclocking but that will be about the best we can do on those chipsets.
4. I am back on a consistent basis.

890GX board front USB headers in latest bios are bugged they don't run full 2.0 is that a known issue?

[-Px-]

ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3
With BIOS 1606 if I put USB drive before boot, BIOS change the boot order to boot from it.
How to reproduce:
Put usb stick into port, turn on PC, go to BIOS, the first boot device is usb drive. Change boot order to boot from HDD, save changes, system starts from HDD. Now turn off system, remove USB stick, turn pc on, wait until OS starts, put usb stick back, and reboot system - boot order changed, and first boot drive is usb now. This is very annoying, please, roll back this change or at least make it configurable.
Also, if I put usb stick in port when system boots, it hangs.
This is both regression from 1456

[thirdman]

still need someone to confirm the problem of onboard hdmi booting issue.

[pershoot]

wow i just cant believe the vcore jumping.

at ~1.32 it gets up to 1.48 just sitting there. this is with 0055 and 1102. in various monitoring tools. i dont seem to spot it in bios.

i dont feel comfy clocking it like this (if this jumping is really what is ocurring).

bingo, all, any thoughts on this?

i turned off turbo core (was at auto), and it seems to have resolved that.

i wasnt aware that turbo core affected voltage.

[hawktulu]

Update-
1. 890GX board having problems with two NV cards - Random beyond belief in regression testing, but after checking several user configurations we have the problem narrowed down to certain vBIOS inconsistences between cards, drivers, and the BIOS. Working on a final solution now.
2. 890FX - beta BIOS releases with greater LLC control coming soon.
3. M4A/M4N/M3A/M3N - Finally have some AGESA code tweaks coming that will tighten up the voltages on the X6 family and allow slightly better overclocking but that will be about the best we can do on those chipsets.
4. I am back on a consistent basis.

waiting for it thanks bingo

[GMScribe]

i turned off turbo core (was at auto), and it seems to have resolved that.

i wasnt aware that turbo core affected voltage.

It's not meant to affect the overall TDP wattage but could in theory cause changes in voltage from my understanding from a change in the resistance/current ratio.

[GMScribe]

OK wow first failed boot on 8GB, maybe it really is this mobo, time to test the memory in another machine!

[pershoot]

[QUOTE=bingo13;4568737]Update-

2. 890FX - beta BIOS releases with greater LLC control coming soon.

looking forward to this. really need tighter control over voltages.

[hawktulu]

Update-
1. 890GX board having problems with two NV cards - Random beyond belief in regression testing, but after checking several user configurations we have the problem narrowed down to certain vBIOS inconsistences between cards, drivers, and the BIOS. Working on a final solution now.
2. 890FX - beta BIOS releases with greater LLC control coming soon.
3. M4A/M4N/M3A/M3N - Finally have some AGESA code tweaks coming that will tighten up the voltages on the X6 family and allow slightly better overclocking but that will be about the best we can do on those chipsets.
4. I am back on a consistent basis.

and what about multipliers? CPU multiplier dont work on 1609beta on m3a79 Tdeluxe

edit: sorry, 1055T has locked multiplier, my fault..anything above 14 isnt working, below 14 it is working sometimes, but I cant always boot to win with multi 13 for example

[Dolk]

still need someone to confirm the problem of onboard hdmi booting issue.

I still need to test this for you. I should have some time here today to do so.

[NaMcO]

Hello...

Any news regarding BIOS BOOT support for OCZ's Revodrive on the Crosshair IV Formula?



It's an interesting drive indeed and it's not supported ATM on this motherboard

[NaMcO]

Hmmm... anyone?

[Praz]

Hmmm... anyone?

Asus is working on a BIOS update for the C4F. The board currently boots with the drive but is not stable.

[NaMcO]

Ahhh... Thank you!

I've been reading about the drive and it doesn't seem to be THAT good anyway. Performance at the 4K level is similar/inferior to top of the range SSDs and that's what matters for Windows loading/application operation. I guess i'll wait some more time to see how it goes.

[Hawkeye4077]

Just hope we can get the M3N-HT deluxe stable. I am about to turn one into a HTPC + Storage Server..

[skill123]

Bingo13 , any advice about what BIOS is better: 1608 from ASUS download page or 1609 that you posted?
Tomorrow i'll get my 1090T and i want to know what's best for my M3A79-T Deluxe.

[p4spooky]

Bingo13 , any advice about what BIOS is better: 1608 from ASUS download page or 1609 that you posted?
Tomorrow i'll get my 1090T and i want to know what's best for my M3A79-T Deluxe.

1609 has been good for me until new bios is out with tweaks and new AGESA code that bingo has been teasing us for a while. Waiting patiently

[hawktulu]

Bingo13 , any advice about what BIOS is better: 1608 from ASUS download page or 1609 that you posted?
Tomorrow i'll get my 1090T and i want to know what's best for my M3A79-T Deluxe.

voltages for CPU are better handled in 1609, so go with it until new bios is out

[Daveburt714]

wow i just cant believe the vcore jumping.

at ~1.32 it gets up to 1.48 just sitting there. this is with 0055 and 1102. in various monitoring tools. i dont seem to spot it in bios.

i dont feel comfy clocking it like this (if this jumping is really what is ocurring).

pershoot: Have you actually been able to flash between bios versions 0055b and 1102?

I'm running 0055 and no matter what I do I can't seem to flash 1102...
If you managed it could ya tell me how?

Thanks,
Dave

[pershoot]

pershoot: Have you actually been able to flash between bios versions 0055b and 1102?

I'm running 0055 and no matter what I do I can't seem to flash 1102...
If you managed it could ya tell me how?

Thanks,
Dave

yup via ezflash in bios. on 0055 currently, but it let me flash from 0055 to 1102 and back without issue.

[Daveburt714]

yup via ezflash in bios. on 0055 currently, but it let me flash from 0055 to 1102 and back without issue.

Wow, thats wierd...
I'm in the middle of a Steam DL so I can't try it right now...

But I tried it using the Bios flash option and it gave me errors, saying 1102 wasn't a valid file.

Thanks for the tip, maybe it's because I'm trying from a HD...
I'll put the bios file on a flash drive and try it form there.

Thanks

[pershoot]

Wow, thats wierd...
I'm in the middle of a Steam DL so I can't try it right now...

But I tried it using the Bios flash option and it gave me errors, saying 1102 wasn't a valid file.

Thanks for the tip, maybe it's because I'm trying from a HD...
I'll put the bios file on a flash drive and try it form there.

Thanks

the first time i flashed with the 0055 file on cd. then i used an NTFS drive with 1102 on it to flash. then finally i used 0055 on the NTFS drive to flash back.

[NEOAethyr]

Hi dudes, I got the CH4, 0055 bios.
A phenom 1090t.
And some gskill 2133mhz ram.
4hgz cpu, 2ghz mem, and 3ghz cpu-nb and ht.
I can post screenshots and more specs later.

I just wanted to post this for now and I can worry about the other thigns later.


Need:

More mem stability for higher then 2000mhz mem clocks.
I can get memtest stable at 2133mhz at decent timings np, but getting s&m stable nope...

More cpu-nb stability for speeds higher then 3000mhz.
I can run 3000mhz at low voltages, but to even boot into windows at say 3250mhz is a pain and requires way way to much voltage.
And in the end I can never get it 100% stable anyways at 3250mhz.


Adjustable power states for the cpu.
PhenomMsrTweaker screws up and my cpu gets stucks with only 2 working power states.
I need the bios to doit instead.
At the very least I'de like to beable to have control on the turbo mode cpu voltage.

An example of what I'de like to beable to do:
3000 12x 1.037500v, sm stable
3250 13x 1.093750v, HWMonitor 1.10v/1.12v 37.6c sm stable
3500 14x 1.159375v, HWMonitor 1.16v/1.18v 40.5c sm stable
3750 15x 1.228125v, HWMonitor 1.24v/1.26v 44.5c sm stable
4000 16x 1.334375v, HWMonitor 1.34v/1.37v 52.5c sm stable

1.334375v BIOS = 1.37v-1.38v DMM 1.4v VID
1.228125v BIOS = 1.26v DMM 1.3000v VID
1.159375v BIOS = 1.19v DMM 1.2250v VID
1.093750v BIOS = 1.13v DMM 1.1625v VID
1.037500v BIOS = 1.07v DMM 1.1125v VID (spot on if not a tad more)

P4 12x 3000 1.1125v/1.25v
P3 13x 3250 1.1625v/1.25v
P2 14x 3500 1.2250v/1.25v
P1 15x 3750 1.3000v/1.25v
P0 16x 4000 1.4000v/1.25v


CPU L1/L2/L3 ECC I don't think is working, at least from what everest says.

Booting is annoying...
The dmi screen countdown (which is nice, bu when you have little options to control it it's annoying).
The 2 seperate post logo screens, before dmi and after dmi, why 2...
The 2nd even says press this or that to get into bios setup, by that time, it's to lait to be pressing any keys anyways...
And with raid enabled, it's pretty darn annoying and slow to boot.
I can boot win7 faster then I can boot the board...
To put it bluntly, if the bios is set to quick boot essentually, it shouldn't take 12-15secs to boot.

There is little to no options for the pcie bus config.

PCIE speed limit of 150mhz is way to low.
250mhz or higher would be nice.


Not sure until I buy another psu, but at the moment both my 8600gt and 240gt is not 100% stable on this board.
Not sure if it's a problem with the board is that I don't have quite enough power.
I used to have issues in codmw2 and bbc2.
Though these days I only have probs with mafia2 and sometimes (not offen) random crashes on flash stuff.

I've also seem some oddities with the card's themselves on this board which leads me to belive it's releated to my psu or the board's pcie bus.
Examples:
Rarely, gpu errors in my windows logs (rmlogging enabled).
Gpu-z sometimes not being able to figuer out what sort of vga card I have (happens on both my cards sometimes).
The pcie bus sometimes running at pcie 2.0 mode with a 8x link speed.
Every crash or lockup that I still have is releated to the vga card in some way or another it seems...

Stuff I used to have issues with:
Call of duty modern warfare 2
Battlefield bad company 2 (even worse then codmw2...)

Stuff I still have issue with from time to time:
Mafia 2 (Soemtimes I can play for hours, other times it crashes or locks within so many mins of play).
Online flash video's (opera as the browser), rarely crash or lock on these but it does happen so I know it's not just mafia 2 that screws up.
Then again I am using opera (buggy by nature I guess you could say)...


Some hd controller options in the bios, I believe it was the 1st 2 controllers that have more options in the bios then the other ones.

Missing some spread spectrum options, I think the south bridge is one example.
And what does it mean that when have both south bridge + north bridge spread spectrum enabled it cuases corruption?
I can't remember the specific error msg, but it's listed somewhere in the bios in some hidden settings.

PCIE slots I think are a mm to short...
I have issues getting my 240gt to post because the heatsink sits right on top of the adjecent pci slots.
And when I do, sometimes i'm only able to use half of the pcie slot..., ie getting stuck in 8x mode and having to re-insert the card again.

And what is the deal with releasing the ch4 extreme?
I waited months for that board to come out, it never did so I baught this, for around $250.
If you guys are truly releasing the extreme ver then you should allow us an upgrade from the formula ver for a small fee.
Because I wouuld of never baught this board if the extreme had been out.
That kinda ticks me off...(actually I'm pretty pissed off about it, paying $250 for a mid ranger)

Pwm heatsink is a few mm to high.
I mean there's a few mm gap between the heatsink and the pwm.
I had to keep the thermal pads on the pwm because of this.


The asus temp probe 2 software or whatever it's called does not work in my win7 os or win2k3 os because it tries to use wmi or something to get performance info from windows.
And even if it did work I don't like the interface anyways...
Hwmonitor works, but is spyware.
Also it's missing to much...
Everest works good but it takes up to much ram...
I'm finding myself wishing that the asus software was decent...

[Leeghoofd]

Are you serious about your demands ? 250Mhz PCI-E ? Where have you seen that value before ? Ya heatsink problem is so lol ? Your GT240 cooler is probably too big, not the PCI-E that are too low. SB spectrum control ? You want a step up to the CH IV E coz you couldn't wait another week ? Your list is endless... and not always reasonable...

What cooling are you using, if it's air or water, sorry mate over 3000NB will be a pain... And your rig is not stable, but it's the boards fault... ow boy... is it April fools already ?

[NEOAethyr]

Ya I'm serious...

250mhz pcie is easy on dfi boards.
Though I thaught 250mhz was to low of a speed, but stuck at 150mhz is much worse.
I could actually use more pci/pcie speed though.

I'm on stock cooling right now.

Ya my 240gt's heatsink is to big, but if the slots were just 1mm taller it would be alot better.
I know it's way to late to change that but in the future, it would be nice to have a slightly taller pcie slot.
They are alot shorter then the pci slots...

Spread spectrum, I use this...
Hence why I want the rest of it, I know there's more hidden away...

I don't see why nb speeds over 3ghz are so hard to get.
My voltage I think is 1.125v for the cpu-nb or close to that.
I need around 1.4v to boot into windows at higher speeds :\.
I know something can be done about that.


Stability...
I'm unsure if it's my board or my psu.
I can pass s&m normal length 2 times in a row, prime, intelburn test, superpi, etc, all np.
But when it comes to vga, certain things just screw up on my system.
I've tried 2 diff cards, both worked 100% in my dfi.

I'm getting another psu in a few months though, a corsair or seasonic I'm not sure which yet.
But what do I do if the psu isn't the problem ?
Throw the $250 board in the garbage because I can't return it ?

I've already tried every voltage, speed setting that there is.
I still crash even at lower then stock speeds.
Even disabled spread spectrum settings, tried everything I think.

My stability went from 100%, no crashes even on vga, on my stock bios 801.
When I flashed the 905, I lost that stability.
I was never able to get it back fully.
Even when I flashed back.

At 1st, cpu-nb voltage needed to be adjusted.
But my mem wasn't 2000mhz stable.
I dn what I did but that eventually came back.

But my vga is still wacked :\.
Yes I've tried lower pci-e speeds...
It helps a little on my 240gt.
But not at all on my 8600gt.
My 240gt needs a tiny bit more pcie voltage, then it's stable.
But still less reliable then the 8600gt.

My psu voltages look ok, I can't remember where exactly they are at, around 12.10 or 12.16v.
It fluctuates around 0.01v which is decent enough.

I haven't tried using 2 psu's at once, but I only have 4 crappy fans running anyways.
I'm using maybe 20w's max on my fans.
That may make up the 30w's diff between the 8600gt and the 240gt, but if power is my issue, then it won't fix it by taking a measly 20w's off my load.


When I got the ch4, it was another 2-3 months before the extreme was mentioned to go retail.
I sat with money in my pocket for 3-4 months waiting for the extreme to come out, figure it wouldn't so I got the formula.
Now only a few months later diff sites out there are saying that the extreme has gone retail.
I'de pay another $50 to swap this board if I could.
Pretty darn pricey, but I'm not gonna stick with a mid range board if there's a better one out there with the same chipset.


Mem stability wise...
I can do 2133 memtest stable at 8-9-7 cmd1.
2000mhz, so close to stable at 8-9-6 cmd1.

Cpu clocking wise I don't see much of a problem, with a decent heatsink I could clock higher.
I've got my cpu voltage to the lowest ratio it will allow in the bios.
And to be onest it much higher then what I need for voltages :\.

Everest benches:
12k, 10k and 17k for mem bandwith right now.
I've got the mem in single chan mode.
...

Oh, dual chan mode has a hard time working at fsb speeds past 240mhz...
Forgot to mention that, that was kind of important.
The ganged mode thing...

Edit:
Getting a new psu and vga card in a few months.
Going for a nv 465.
I only get $80 a month to collect up on though for it'll take a few.
Cigs and weed cost money too...
Getting the new psu 1st though.
Should only take me 2 months ^^ :\.

My list is quite small considering what I want in the bios.
I only mentioned the important things ^^.