Areca 1880

[Tiltevros]

honda civic i think :P

[SteveRo]

I've tried 2-8 drives and the number of drives doesn't seem to matter.
Looks like the HDD related pcmv scores are (almost) all down to controller/settings and OC.

I've talked to Nizzen and he's got the same "issues" regarding score Vs number of drives.
(a bit strange)

Wow, I'm anxious to give it a try with the acards.

[Computurd]

what radiator is that?

Yup, modified honda civic
cools 250 horsepower
do hondas even have that much HP? who knows, I'm not a car guy.

it eats anything i put on it. holds almost two gallons with the blocks and all. is just a horse itself, temps never waver. takes hours to get warm even. some big 140 fans on it and a mcp 655 with EK top and its all good!
yes standard BBU are working, i have one and it is pretty easy to hook up etc, only a hundred bucks, so i jumped on it. the lsi were almost two hundred so i never got one.

i have toyed with scsiport/storport, and low QD the storport is much better, doesnt scale as high, but since i am not running a server it doesnt matter

storport low QD is INSANE.

@spoiler, how many drives?

[lowfat]

Yup, modified honda civic
cools 250 horsepower

Aren't most radiators made out of aluminum? Either way that thing is huge.

[Computurd]

yea its aluminum. never had any issues though. it is not connected to my case via any means. the only connection is the tubing, so there shouldnt be any corrosion issues, or what have you. there has to be a electrical or some type of physical connection between them for corrosion or something someone told me once...could be wrong on that, but i recall something along those lines of reasoning...
either way i tear it down every four months and check it over, no issues whatsoever in almost two years ive had it. i wouldnt trade it for any quad rad (or two) in the world that is for sure
PTNuke and distilled is what i run in it. makes a great conversation piece too when people come in...

[Mr.McRAID]

Steve,

I'm a bit excited , I expect it could take a while to get to know this thing.
The test was using 16KB stripe size, 1GB cache, WBC
Read ahead -> Disabled

last file is 32KB stripe size, 1 and 3GB testfile
comment on the 3GB test, ~53.000 iops is max, a bit disappointing.
Looks like as one steps out of the cache, things slow down.

Did you test the performance with 128KB Stripe Size? With all Areca controllers which we tested in the past, this 128KB Stripe Size setting gives in most cases a extra performance of some % up to 6%. ;-).

I'm wondering if that is still the case..

@Mr CT - 1GB or 4GB for the benches you just posted?

A little hard to do direct compare because not apples to apples but compare CT's latest numbers to the -

1231ML-4GB,
1231ML-4GB,

What does it mean ? 1261ML-4GB, that there are 4GB modules on this controller?

Because the Areca specs say's : (Default 256MB/ Upgrade to max 2GB) ?

[SteveRo]

@ Mr McRaid - from what testing we have done - for SSDs on areca 12XX series and perhaps also on 1880 - 4k stripe is fastest for high iops
I have a later version of the 1231 that allows 4GB cache, the egg offers the 1261 with 4GB also -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...eca-_-16151063

[Tutto]

there arent any out there other than kingston, which are discontinued, thus expensive as hell.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rp.-_-20139084

Is this compatible with the 1880

[Mr.McRAID]

@ Mr McRaid - from what testing we have done - for SSDs on areca 12XX series and perhaps also on 1880 - 4k stripe is fastest for high iops
I have a later version of the 1231 that allows 4GB cache, the egg offers the 1261 with 4GB also -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...eca-_-16151063

4GB on ARC-1231 and ARC1261ML is right for the new boards (hardware revision 2.0)

OK...for IOPS.

But I want to use it for Video editing and need max transfer of data, isn't faster to use the biggest stripe size for performance in this case?

[Mr.McRAID]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rp.-_-20139084

Is this compatible with the 1880

No..!!

Must be KVR800D2D8P6/4G (But is EOL)

or unigen UG51T7200N8DR-8CC

[Computurd]

Is this compatible with the 1880

most definitely not. if you buy that, you may get the very stick i rma'd

for transfer of video, etc, i would venture to say that the 128 would do you more justice. big files!! you have to tailor to your needs

[IanB]

yea its aluminum. never had any issues though. it is not connected to my case via any means. the only connection is the tubing, so there shouldnt be any corrosion issues, or what have you. there has to be a electrical or some type of physical connection between them for corrosion or something someone told me once

I don't want to worry you, but the coolant IS the electrical connection. It's a bunch of charged ions floating in a fluid. You will get galvanic corrosion to some extent even if you are using distilled/deionised water, since this is not the natural state and over time ions anywhere in the loop will dissolve into the water. Think of it like "nature abhors a vacuum", the lack of any ions in the water is pretty similar (although no brand of distilled or deionized is perfectly 100% ion-free). And PT Nuke is copper sulphate solution and other stuff IIRC - there's ions right there you just corrupted your de-ionized loop with.

It seems if you are tearing down and checking regularly you have loop maintenance covered, but don't kid yourself you are are free of issues just because you are using rubber tubing, the fact is that any mix of copper and aluminium means you still have blocks and radiators that will corrode if in the same loop together.

[SteveRo]

I don't want to worry you, but the coolant IS the electrical connection. It's a bunch of charged ions floating in a fluid. You will get galvanic corrosion to some extent even if you are using distilled/deionised water, since this is not the natural state and over time ions anywhere in the loop will dissolve into the water. Think of it like "nature abhors a vacuum", the lack of any ions in the water is pretty similar (although no brand of distilled or deionized is perfectly 100% ion-free). And PT Nuke is copper sulphate solution and other stuff IIRC - there's ions right there you just corrupted your de-ionized loop with.

It seems if you are tearing down and checking regularly you have loop maintenance covered, but don't kid yourself you are are free of issues just because you are using rubber tubing, the fact is that any mix of copper and aluminium means you still have blocks and radiators that will corrode if in the same loop together.

Distilled water with a little good quality antifreeze in the lines should slow the chemical reaction way down.
This is what I've done in my mixed metal chilled water setup for 2 years - no problems yet.

[Tutto]

Has anyone successfully run 2 different raids on the 1880 combining standard mechanical drives and ssds? My 1231ML went berserk when I added a raid 0 of 4 Phoenix Pro 120s to a raid 5 with 8 300Gb Raptors.

[Nizzen]

Has anyone successfully run 2 different raids on the 1880 combining standard mechanical drives and ssds? My 1231ML went berserk when I added a raid 0 of 4 Phoenix Pro 120s to a raid 5 with 8 300Gb Raptors.

I running now 4x c300 r0 + 8x samsung 1tb f1 raid-6 + intel gen 2 raid-0.

I Also tested 8x c300 + 10xintel gen2 + harddrives in raid-6. No problems withe many arrays on 1880ix

Edit: Combine HDD and ssd in a raid?

hmm.. I must try

[Tutto]

That's good to hear. I ordered a 1880ix-16 today from NewEgg. I also ordered the 4 gig module directly from Tekram and have 8 Vertex 2 120s coming as well.

[Computurd]

holy crap tutto! that will be one helluva solution

@Ianb..you make a good point, thx (i am not scared though)

[tiro_uspsss]

probably a dumb thread to post this in: isnt there LSI cards coming out with a dual-core 1.4Ghz XOR PCIE3.0 etc?

[Nizzen]

probably a dumb thread to post this in: isnt there LSI cards coming out with a dual-core 1.4Ghz XOR PCIE3.0 etc?

In the future, but not tomorrow

Areca is also uprgading in the future

[Computurd]

it is sampling to OEM right now. cant wait for it to be available in retail...i will have one, make that two!
they are shipping the ROC to oem customers, so there will be designs coming with the new chip soon...surely LSI will have some, but hopefully we get an areca version soon as well!

[Tutto]

The good news is my 1880 and ssds are scheduled to arrive today. The bad news is there is no progress showing on the 4GB module I ordered direct from Tekram. I've sent them 3 email through their web page and haven't gotten a response. Is there a number I can call?

[PnoT]

@Tutto

Did you check this thread out -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=260307

Great find on his part and others to find something cheap...

[Computurd]

this find is Serras hard work and dedication, but feel it merits a mention here...

a tested spec of ram that is working for an unbelievably great price!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=260307

http://www.techreaction.net/forums/s...ead.php?t=3869

991822 - 4GB DDR2 PC2-6400 6-6-6-18 Proline ECC Registered

Web priced at a mere $133.42 (retrieved 10-2-2010).

[tiro_uspsss]

havent been following the mem issue too much, but would this do:

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?...-Server-Memory

[Serra]

havent been following the mem issue too much, but would this do:

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?...-Server-Memory

I don't believe so as that's an FB-DIMM.