looks like GEWA-DS it is
damn that site is obnoxious
looks like GEWA-DS it is
damn that site is obnoxious
Last edited by ryan92084; 09-25-2010 at 05:34 AM.
Keen on the Monsta 785x144x101. I will place this thing on the roof to look just what has been advertised.
You can say that again.Originally Posted by ryan92084
Well they should be expensive but otherwise when some one ( maybe Skinnee ? ) test them we will see if they're a nice choice or not. But no one can't tell that they don't show us their products like this was going to be the end of the world and only they can save usWhat an epic music on the website.
I was going to wait for the single 140mm radiator since they have the option tu put 120mm or 140mm and the quality seems very good but I got a Black Ice SR-1 140 incoming so it will have to wait but otherwise it doesn't fit on the case LOL so big.
Guys, I did a Google translation of this link and the guys there are claiming it's all aluminum.all photos are here
http://watercooling.fr/forum/materie...ger-t4110.html
strange internal conception , interesting to test !
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Go to this link and click on them Monsta 700 and listen. I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair.
These better perform better than anything out there or this will go down as the biggest hype/fail product in watercooling history.
The website is so full of fluff. If I was a noob and went to their website I would order one just because of how well the website is put together. Hopefully they aren't counting on these noobs to make a profit.
Lets see some reviews !!!!!!!!! Send me a 120.2 and I'll put it up against my PA 120.2 and I could have a review in less than 24 hours.
"Actually they are 100% aluminum and the interior is covered with a layer of "nanodevices" (roughly as nickel plating) that keeps the heat transfer intact but prevents any oxidation reduction."Guys, I did a Google translation of this link and the guys there are claiming it's all aluminum.
But look at this:
"The new offer "Admiral" radiator TFC seems to consist of 18 models, accompanied by a 10 year warranty."
So I'm not really sure they will give that amount of warranty years if they were not sure that this will not cause any problems.
Give them a chance, I'm not really sure about why there are too many Haters of this brand . ¿Do they caused you any problem?I'm asking because I cant understand that amount of hate from someones.
Last edited by guilleguillaume; 09-25-2010 at 09:01 AM.
Ouch. I dont think I will be touching them for a while until the internal plating is proved to hold up over time. No way I am tossing them in my Murdermod that will be hell to disassemble because the plating failed.
I had high hopes for something new and hope that isnt dashed by Alu
if they do turn out to be all aluminum and cause problems the warrenty won't help all your blocks that get corroded. but that french article could have just misinterpreted the aluminum housing quote from the site."Actually they are 100% aluminum and the interior is covered with a layer of "nanodevices" (roughly as nickel plating) that keeps the heat transfer intact but prevents any oxidation reduction."
But look at this:
"The new offer "Admiral" radiator TFC seems to consist of 18 models, accompanied by a 10 year warranty."
So I'm not really sure they will give that amount of warranty years if they were not sure that this will not cause any problems.
Give them a chance, I'm not really sure about why there are too many Haters of this brand . ¿Do they caused you any problem?
mhmh but i read the frame is in aluminium not the tube... or not?
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Thats good news. I thought we were past the Alu daysmhmh but i read the frame is in aluminium not the tube... or not?
My comment has nothing to do with hating the brand but rather the lackluster transfer of heat the aluminum has compared to copper. That and everything else these days is made from copper/brass just make aluminum a really stupid decision. The Nano plating inside the tubes does indeed suggest these may very well be made from all aluminum, including the tubes. We'll have to see how well that Nano plating works for them, my guess is we'll see ppl start complaining within 2-2½ years about "funky things" on their blocks. My recommendation is, if you use any of these rads, go all nickel plating to reduce the risk of being one of those ppl."Actually they are 100% aluminum and the interior is covered with a layer of "nanodevices" (roughly as nickel plating) that keeps the heat transfer intact but prevents any oxidation reduction."
But look at this:
"The new offer "Admiral" radiator TFC seems to consist of 18 models, accompanied by a 10 year warranty."
So I'm not really sure they will give that amount of warranty years if they were not sure that this will not cause any problems.
Give them a chance, I'm not really sure about why there are too many Haters of this brand . ¿Do they caused you any problem?
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That 5X140 must be freaking HUGE!! Who's going to make the first case for one..
We'll see on the performance after Skinnee gives it a work over. Aluminum does bother me too in regard to corrosion potential, lots of examples of where plating simply wasn't 100% on past blocks, etc, but maybe they figured out a better plating process. Aluminum actually has better thermal conductivity than the brass and solder-tin(Tubes and bonding). The fins are usually copper, but I suspect its the tubes and soldering interface that becomes the weakest thermal transfer link. I'm still not sure there is enough air contact surface area, but I suppose that's why they are looking at going thicker than standard.
Glad to see something different, I hope it does really well.
If the tubes actually are aluminum, I'd run some sort of corrosion blocker for sure until some long term testing has shown it's ok.
Last edited by Martinm210; 09-25-2010 at 10:31 AM.
They really planning to rake in big cash with aluminium rads?
BTW, if there is increased heat transfer because of micro roughed internal watertube surface .. won't it mean also that most LC premixed coolants (including theirs) very soon will gunk up all that nano unobtanium layer with resulting performance drop, and unlike from flat surface tubes washing gunk from such surface probably will be much harder?
1: They would not give 10 years of warranty for this unless they had a good reason.
2: They are a German company and that gives me confidence.
3: They have created the Feser X-Changer radiator series which proved to be as good as the leading brand.
4: All Feser products that I've bought up to this day never let me down.
5: It is not like they went to all this without a research. So I would expect at least a initial respect for what they are trying to do.
The new admiral Mosta is getting closer and closer to my system. 10 x 140mm Fans
2 loops may not be needed anymore. This deserves a great review. Now I'm excited.
haha... "700 Holy Moses"
I'm sure the aluminium is just the frame, as it says.
I'm getting a little excited about this - ok so from the description, the tubes are actually 2 tubes cold pressed with swirrrrlees inside, sounds like rifling. I want to see one cut open.
If they turn out to be worth the hype, I got a place for a Monster 420.
Sept is about over, when do they hit stores?
upgrading...
And then you realize there will never be an end to building humongous casesA 140x5!.
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I almost forgot how small some cases are... Bought a Rosewill Challenger for my sons pc budget build thinking...yeah I could probably throw a triple or my old bonnie heatercore in there....not to sure now. We get spoiled with the tech stations and monster cases, but we like it that way..
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That 5X140 must be freaking HUGE!! Who's going to make the first case for one..
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Danger Den will make a case for anything. They will do custom orders on anything you can think of. For a price of course and they are super friendly when you talk to them on the phone and are really helpful when planning out whatever you have in mind. I had them build a custom UV blue Rad box for the bottom of my computer and the process was really easy and smooth.
Answer: Mountain Mods...
So aluminum in the frame, right? None gets in the water like the aluminum reservoirs *bleagh* do.
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That is my understanding from the information I have.
exactly what information do you have?
upgrading...
The “TurboWhirl Enhancement” sounds like a possibility for a significant water-tube inner surface convection enhancement by means of reducing the skin effect. This has been done in automotive and aircraft industry for quite some time, but I’ve never heard of it being implemented in computer watercooling.
I talked to Daz about that and he said that is his preliminary guess at the cost. He just wanted shopbots to start seeing the price and product. He said he was quite confident that prices would fall directly in line with the original X-Changer release price, which or course will not make people happy either.
I think it is easy to say that allot of people are interested in how this all pans out. I know I am. I really do hope this can spark a change in how things are done and perhaps shave a few degrees or more. As long as it is something new, and actually performs well, I will be very interested.
I will be watching Skinnee's review like a hawk, along with everyone else.
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