Feser's New Lineup

[ScottALot]

The Admiral Series Radiators

http://www.frozencpu.com/ in the latest news section

They show a few pics of the rads and they certainly are different. I hope the wait was worth it!

[Kenjiwing]

Looks interesting

[ryan92084]

The Admiral Series Radiators

http://www.frozencpu.com/ in the latest news section

They show a few pics of the rads and they certainly are different. I hope the wait was worth it!

hrm i know i've seen a tower cooler with similar staggered disk like fins before. I also seem to recall a concept sketch on these forums with them. I can't recall the pros/cons though.

edit: on a second look i misinterpreted the pictures. this looks a lot like waterlogged's link below + ridges.

[lowfat]

Why couldn't they just post pictures instead of some lame flash.

[ScottALot]

Why couldn't they just post pictures instead of some lame flash.

My question, exactly. It's like that damn music on their sites that just makes you want to smash your head against your keyboard.

[OC Maximus]

lol, yeah, that flash is pretty annoying.

OCM

[Erklat]

Have I just smashed my head against my keyboard?

The more interesting part is Iandh Pure-Sil coolant just below. Taken that his killcoil costs $6.50,
it definitely seems like they're charging $13 for distilled water which is ridiculous.

[ryan92084]

Have I just smashed my head against my keyboard?

The more interesting part is Iandh Pure-Sil coolant just below. Taken that his killcoil costs $6.50,
it definitely seems like they're charging $13 for distilled water which is ridiculous.

heh if you read the post regarding all the steps in making it you'd understand

[Erklat]

heh if you read the post regarding all the steps in making it you'd understand

I did and realized it's kinda old news.

But, it's pricing is derived more from the perspective that Feser sells it's
crap for $10/L than the fact that two hours are needed to produce a
bottle of those. Nice product like anything that comes out of his workshop,
make no mistake about that. Just an idea that I need $40 of coolant every
half a year makes me reject it. Or stick with it's killcoil.

Nuff with the constructive offtopic.

About the rad, seeing enough space between those 'tubes'. Probably low rpm fans optimized at last?
Not a distinctive Feser design. At least wasn't up to this moment.

[iandh]

I did and realized it's kinda old news.

But, it's pricing is derived more from the perspective that Feser sells it's
crap for $10/L than the fact that two hours are needed to produce a
bottle of those. Nice product like anything that comes out of his workshop,
make no mistake about that. Just an idea that I need $40 of coolant every
half a year makes me reject it. Or stick with it's killcoil.

Nuff with the constructive offtopic.

About the rad, seeing enough space between those 'tubes'. Probably low rpm fans optimized at last?
Not a distinctive Feser design. At least wasn't up to this moment.

Here's the original product post:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...light=pure-sil



As far as the source of the pricing, it is based on my initial equipment investment combined with production cost, combined with shipping cost, combined with time. With my most recent order of 40 bottles, I've just now broken even on my initial investment.

The next order after this most recent one will be the first I'll actually make money on, since I originally introduced the product just over a year ago.

The reason I spend two hours a bottle is to push the silver ion concentration to the breaking point, to ensure the longevity of the biocidal properties of the coolant. It is meant to last for a couple years or more, not just half a year.

I could run the coolant through ionization for ten minutes and it would be more than strong enough to sell. I am making sure to reach a point of complete overkill.



When I first introduced this I was very aware that it would be a slow seller, not much profit, and cater to an extremely small niche. For most users, plain distilled and a killcoil makes sense. Some users may prefer using Pure-sil instead, for various reasons.

Anyways, no offense taken, just thought I'd let you know.

[pby5cat]

I thought flat tubes was the way to go, example the MORA series rads, due to increased surface contact?

[Erklat]

Anyways, no offense taken, just thought I'd let you know.

God forbid, my objective was never to offend you since I know that everything that
comes out of your workshop is overkill in regard to perfectionism. I deeply
apologize if that is the impression I left.

I took the 6 months reference more in regard to adding something to my loop
which needs dismantling and replacing the coolant, than because I thought it lost it's biocidal properties.
I too would prefer Pure-sil over pure distilled and PT nuke.

Is it safe to conclude your product might be recycled for more than one use then?

Thats a big and bold statment! Who is willing to cut one up then once they come out?

That is called aggressive advertising
Me, me provides a jigsaw

[Waterlogged]

Well, it's certainly different than anything else currently on the market. . .but it's hardly a "radically new concept". I do wonder if they managed to get rid of the dead spot in the center that's inherent in all tube style rads with those folds.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...6&postcount=11

Note the date on that post. All it really looks like to me is they redesigned the average household style radiator for the PC.

I'll say this though, those Triebwerks ought to be able to push through this pretty well.

[Aedubber]

Looks nice but do you think they will perform well? I have always used their xchangers and have been happy..

[ScottALot]

It'd be kind of cool if that iandh stuff was sorta tinted silver color.

On the topic of the radiator, the curved sort of fins make me think fans will have an easier time getting static pressure as any airflow that gets through will be able to drag other cool air with it around the fins.

EDIT: That above line is confusing, but I just can't explain it any better : /

[Aedubber]

SO are you saying the design is BETTER then what current rads are like or?

[Waterlogged]

From the images, it doesn't look like there are any "fins", those bulges are part of the copper(?) tubes.

[ScottALot]

From the images, it doesn't look like there are any "fins", those bulges are part of the copper(?) tubes.

Maybe I"m looking at it wrong

To me it looks like the fins are surrounding the channels making these sort of fin-tubes instead of just a flat wall of fins.

[Waterlogged]

Maybe I"m looking at it wrong

To me it looks like the fins are surrounding the channels making these sort of fin-tubes instead of just a flat wall of fins.

All I see in those pics on FCPU are a bunch of tubes that have been processed in a way (knurled with smooth rollers, or perhaps stamped in a press?) to give them more surface area with no conventional type fins between them.

[ScottALot]

All I see in those pics on FCPU are a bunch of tubes that have been processed in a way (knurled with smooth rollers, or perhaps stamped in a press?) to give them more surface area with no conventional type fins between them.

Ah, I hadn't seen that picture! They sorta look like rolled heatpipes in a way...

^ hehe, Feser and their ability to piss anyone off yet give awesome sales

[NaeKuh]

From the images, it doesn't look like there are any "fins", those bulges are part of the copper(?) tubes.

errrr maybe they took something simular to gabe's air sink design?

it looks like they used a simular methodology as this guy here:


instead of fins, it looks like the pipes have been invidually made so they would get a greater surface area at a smaller foot print.

Problem with this design i see tho, it looks like its gonna break a new record in how overpriced a radiator can be.

[MagisD]

errrr maybe they took something simular to gabe's air sink design?

it looks like they used a simular methodology as this guy here:

I'd like to see that sealed in With a side inlet and Top outlet and see what happens ;-)

[Waterlogged]

I'd like to see that sealed in With a side inlet and Top outlet and see what happens ;-)

It's called. . .corrosion.

[MagisD]

It's called. . .corrosion.

HEHEHEHEEH with lets say Silver pins or Non corrosive elements , humm maybe if Pins Were swirled into more of a corkscrew shape. flow in on the bottom and around and around the pins on its way up and out .


Ohh that would be insane .. inside the feser tubes .... a giant corkscrew flow.

[nysulli]

I'd like to see that sealed in With a side inlet and Top outlet and see what happens ;-)

years ago people did stuff like that, I remember a guy on forumoc back in the day sealed up an old ocz gladiator heatsink and had solid results, ran it with a huge danner mag 265 watt pump and a pair of 6" bong towers with a picnic cooler as the reservoir

as for this infringing on patents with that heatsink, not even close, 2 different applications, plus as its been pointed out, other companies have done what looks to be similar with watercoolers for other applications.

that said I probably wouldn't buy one based on what they'll likely be priced at, but I'm still interested to see what they bring to the table