AMD Ontario APU pictured,die size ~77mm^2

[ajaidev]

No, on my old X2 @ 2.2GHz only WMV worked smoothly at 1080P, some formats was way to slow.



My distrust for hardware decoding has nothing to do with speed, it has to do with support. I want something that can play all formats in all containers. As far as I know ATi still don't have support for pixelmapped 1080P in Vista or Win 7.

Ahh what you need is raw power of the CPU then because most things dont support accelerating everything and neither will the new something that Intel will soon release....

Also what matters besides 1080P it has matters what its the bitrate of the 1080P you are watching i have seen differences in disks bitrate wise and it maybe that the WMV is of a lower bit rate.

[-Boris-]

Is pixelmapping not property of tv not gfx card? Atleast that is my understanding (if we speak about same thing, in otherwords overscan).

You can adjust your overscan in CCC. So no, it is in drivers to. In Win XP i get perfectly crisp picture, in Vista and Win 7 I have to adjust the image in CCC until it fits my screen, and then it's slightly blurred.

[-Boris-]

Ahh what you need is raw power of the CPU then because most things dont support accelerating everything and neither will the new something that Intel will soon release....

Also what matters besides 1080P it has matters what its the bitrate of the 1080P you are watching i have seen differences in disks bitrate wise and it maybe that the WMV is of a lower bit rate.

Exactly, I need a good CPU.
And might be that my WMV clips has lower bitrate, anyhow, I want all my movies to runs smooth.

[nn_step]

Well if you have a free time to play with it...
http://sourceforge.net/ - chose whatever you want.

Since, I teach for a living an I know that unless you pick something specific, that you'll just keep ing that I am just not testing the right software until you are blue in the face.

So, I politely request that you select a small set of programs that you feel are more valid.

My point was for your untrust of hw decode, not about sw decode speed. I dont think bocat can be fast enough for 1080p sw decode. Only with big maybe its fastest and most consuming version, but i would not put my bets on that.

The point is that bobcat doesn't have to decode video; rather the integrated graphics will do all of that heavy lifting.

[Mechanical Man]

The point is that bobcat doesn't have to decode video; rather the integrated graphics will do all of that heavy lifting.

Yes, i know, you should have read all my posts, that part was for boris who wanted cpu powerful enough to decode 1080p. For me, Bobcat looks like perfect htpc etc. cpu. So good that me "purist" can happily do htpc now

[Manicdan]

bobcat + big hard drive + blue ray + flat htpc case = awesome living room pc for a great price

[Mechanical Man]

bobcat + SSD +NAS + blue ray + flat htpc case = awesome living room pc for a great price

Fixed

[Manicdan]

Fixed

ssd+nas does not mean cheap

[-Boris-]

The point is that bobcat doesn't have to decode video; rather the integrated graphics will do all of that heavy lifting.

And what do you do with the heaps of movies that it doesn't support?

The whole point is that you want a machine that can do it all. Not just play the files that happens to be supported by HW decoder.

[Mechanical Man]

And what do you do with the heaps of movies that it doesn't support?

The whole point is that you want a machine that can do it all. Not just play the files that happens to be supported by HW decoder.

Well, one can convert them to supported format.. That I would do. But firstly i would mainly get formats that are supported. Btw, it most likely is UVD3 and we dont know what it has to put on table...

[Sn0wm@n]

ssd+nas does not mean cheap

+ doesnt mean reliable also

And what do you do with the heaps of movies that it doesn't support?

The whole point is that you want a machine that can do it all. Not just play the files that happens to be supported by HW decoder.

i have no problems running hardware accelerated decoding ... maybe you should check to make sure your files are all hd content first of all

[Mechanical Man]

+ doesnt mean reliable also

Lol, i bet raid nas is lot more reliable than single disks.. + is more silent etc. But this is getting offtopic

[Sn0wm@n]

Lol, i bet raid nas is lot more reliable than single disks.. + is more silent etc. But this is getting offtopic

but the price for that reliability is high right... anyway back to topic ... those litle ontario cpu are what is needed for laptops

[nn_step]

And what do you do with the heaps of movies that it doesn't support?

The whole point is that you want a machine that can do it all. Not just play the files that happens to be supported by HW decoder.

name one video format that a current generation GPU doesn't support directly in hardware or have sufficient processing power to decode and display in software?

[The Coolest]

If the content is properly encoded, then none.
I'm sure that there is still plenty of content out there that UVD may not be able to decode properly or at all, I think that it's much easier to avoid such media files. Chances are you can find an alternative that is properly encoded to allow H/W Acceleration.

[Manicdan]

If the content is properly encoded, then none.
I'm sure that there is still plenty of content out there that UVD may not be able to decode properly or at all, I think that it's much easier to avoid such media files. Chances are you can find an alternative that is properly encoded to allow H/W Acceleration.

true. ive been stuck with watching torrented movies for a while (blockbuster going out of business can be blamed) and not one in the last year or so has ever used more than 10% of my cpu

[richierich]

true. ive been stuck with watching torrented movies for a while (blockbuster going out of business can be blamed) and not one in the last year or so has ever used more than 10% of my cpu

what about netflix

[Manicdan]

what about netflix

i hear you cant get new movies for months.

[richierich]

i hear you cant get new movies for months.

that's really dumb

[Manicdan]

that's really dumb

its how they handle costs i guess, if sales drop 50% after the first week, its better to buy less and use them longer than make everyone happy and have half your stock sitting around.

i posted somewhere else that if comcast did unlimited on-demand for like 20$ a month or something, it would really pick up speed. and i would require them to up the quality too. no way am i paying 5$ to watch a movie once within 24 hours at quality less than DVD. strait rentals at blockbuster were only 4$ and no late fees, so comcast is fail with the pay more and get less attitude. its a shame they have everything they need to do it right, but dont.

[richierich]

What about RedBox?

[Mechanical Man]

but the price for that reliability is high right... anyway back to topic ... those litle ontario cpu are what is needed for laptops

Well, ontario is perfect for htpc, not by price (we dont even know it but by properties. Low power -> silent cooling. That is why I want that ssd too -> silent. Nas can be elsewhere and with 1Gb network you can easily play 1080p from it..

But yeah just release it ffs.

[Manicdan]

What about RedBox?

at 1$ per day, for me to have 2 movies in my house its 60$ a month. if i go to pick up something the day i want it, it wont have it. redbox is a ghetto video store. new stuff comes out tuesday, most people watch things on the weekends, myself included. so i pick them up tues after work, and keep them all week and swap them out next tues. at BB its 15$ a month, any other method is going to be 3x that price, or just not even have any in stock

[MrMojoZ]

its how they handle costs i guess..

No, it is what they are forced to do by license agreements with the studios. Once they can release a movie into the wild there is rarely a problem with supply. Netflix is ideal for a HTPC for the streaming, tons of content on there now.

[mindfury]