AMD Ontario APU pictured,die size ~77mm^2

[madcho]

Super Pi isn't that heavy.

when you want push hard some chips with ln², you do super pi, 3Dmarks to break records.

So i guess, he think this chip will be able to break nehalem best time with ln².

I think this is a incredible ship to do fast cheap NAS server.

[-Boris-]

when you want push hard some chips with ln², you do super pi, 3Dmarks to break records.

So i guess, he think this chip will be able to break nehalem best time with ln².

I think this is a incredible ship to do fast cheap NAS server.

I'm hoping that the higher power version will be able to run 1080P in software.
I don't trust hardware acceleration that much. Hopefully I can throw away my current HTPC, witch crappy nVidia chipset. Miss my old AMD 690G.

[Mechanical Man]

I'm hoping that the higher power version will be able to run 1080P in software.
I don't trust hardware acceleration that much. Hopefully I can throw away my current HTPC, witch crappy nVidia chipset. Miss my old AMD 690G.

My Ol&trusty 3870 handles hd decoding with no prob. So I cant see why would Bobcats decode be any worse (it should be better).

[-Boris-]

My Ol&trusty 3870 handles hd decoding with no prob. So I cant see why would Bobcats decode be any worse (it should be better).

Because you are only using the processor when you do it in software.

[Mechanical Man]

Because you are only using the processor when you do it in software.

My point was for your untrust of hw decode, not about sw decode speed. I dont think bocat can be fast enough for 1080p sw decode. Only with big maybe its fastest and most consuming version, but i would not put my bets on that.

[-Boris-]

C2D 2.5ghz ... have they this inside their computer ? :

No, on my old X2 @ 2.2GHz only WMV worked smoothly at 1080P, some formats was way to slow.

My point was for your untrust of hw decode, not about sw decode speed. I dont think bocat can be fast enough for 1080p sw decode. Only with big maybe its fastest and most consuming version, but i would not put my bets on that.

My distrust for hardware decoding has nothing to do with speed, it has to do with support. I want something that can play all formats in all containers. As far as I know ATi still don't have support for pixelmapped 1080P in Vista or Win 7.

[Mechanical Man]

No, on my old X2 @ 2.2GHz only WMV worked smoothly at 1080P, some formats was way to slow.



My distrust for hardware decoding has nothing to do with speed, it has to do with support. I want something that can play all formats in all containers. As far as I know ATi still don't have support for pixelmapped 1080P in Vista or Win 7.

Is pixelmapping not property of tv not gfx card? Atleast that is my understanding (if we speak about same thing, in otherwords overscan).

[ajaidev]

No, on my old X2 @ 2.2GHz only WMV worked smoothly at 1080P, some formats was way to slow.



My distrust for hardware decoding has nothing to do with speed, it has to do with support. I want something that can play all formats in all containers. As far as I know ATi still don't have support for pixelmapped 1080P in Vista or Win 7.

Ahh what you need is raw power of the CPU then because most things dont support accelerating everything and neither will the new something that Intel will soon release....

Also what matters besides 1080P it has matters what its the bitrate of the 1080P you are watching i have seen differences in disks bitrate wise and it maybe that the WMV is of a lower bit rate.

[nn_step]

Well if you have a free time to play with it...
http://sourceforge.net/ - chose whatever you want.

Since, I teach for a living an I know that unless you pick something specific, that you'll just keep ing that I am just not testing the right software until you are blue in the face.

So, I politely request that you select a small set of programs that you feel are more valid.

My point was for your untrust of hw decode, not about sw decode speed. I dont think bocat can be fast enough for 1080p sw decode. Only with big maybe its fastest and most consuming version, but i would not put my bets on that.

The point is that bobcat doesn't have to decode video; rather the integrated graphics will do all of that heavy lifting.

[Mechanical Man]

The point is that bobcat doesn't have to decode video; rather the integrated graphics will do all of that heavy lifting.

Yes, i know, you should have read all my posts, that part was for boris who wanted cpu powerful enough to decode 1080p. For me, Bobcat looks like perfect htpc etc. cpu. So good that me "purist" can happily do htpc now

[-Boris-]

The point is that bobcat doesn't have to decode video; rather the integrated graphics will do all of that heavy lifting.

And what do you do with the heaps of movies that it doesn't support?

The whole point is that you want a machine that can do it all. Not just play the files that happens to be supported by HW decoder.