ASUS AMD Beta BIOS Releases

[thingbreaker]

Did you clean CMOS?

yes , but still nothing. The mobo has replaced with the new one too.

[chew*]

I notice with non usb3 M4A89TD PRO bios 1006, it's overvolting quite heftily with LLC on, 1.475v = 1.524 full load prime 95, not a big deal I will just drop voltage to compensate but would be nice to set a voltage and actually get it as LLC Off = undershooting what I set quite a bit. A simple fix would be a middle option. LLC Off, 50% LLC and 100 % LLC.

[zoomee]

Success!!!! yaay - thanks asus - it does overvolt .02v more than the previous BIOS's with LLC but at least I got it stable at 4Ghz again

[Daveburt714]

I notice with non usb3 M4A89TD PRO bios 1006, it's overvolting quite heftily with LLC on, 1.475v = 1.524 full load prime 95, not a big deal I will just drop voltage to compensate but would be nice to set a voltage and actually get it as LLC Off = undershooting what I set quite a bit. A simple fix would be a middle option. LLC Off, 50% LLC and 100 % LLC.

This seems to be a common problem with most Asus bios, the last couple releases for the C4F do the same thing,
although 1005 is a little better (especially on the IMC)...
I was hoping to see the LLC% option too, hopefully 1005 was just a placeholder and bingo has something new and better coming soon.

Success!!!! yaay - thanks asus - it does overvolt .02v more than the previous BIOS's with LLC but at least I got it stable at 4Ghz again

Glad you got your clocks back man!!

I have to say... Asus may be a little slow getting new releases out, but at least when you get a new one it actually improves things!

[thingbreaker]

how to rollback m4a87td/usb3 bios using bupdater?

[Dazog]

how to rollback m4a87td/usb3 bios using bupdater?

you can't why would you want to go back???????

[erek]

running the 1606 bios now on ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3

[thingbreaker]

you can't why would you want to go back???????

i just wanna try the older BIOS

[Dolk]

I notice with non usb3 M4A89TD PRO bios 1006, it's overvolting quite heftily with LLC on, 1.475v = 1.524 full load prime 95, not a big deal I will just drop voltage to compensate but would be nice to set a voltage and actually get it as LLC Off = undershooting what I set quite a bit. A simple fix would be a middle option. LLC Off, 50% LLC and 100 % LLC.

I wonder how hard it would be to put in a variable percentage for LLC.

[chew*]

I wonder how hard it would be to put in a variable percentage for LLC.

If it's was not possible at hardware/bios level. I would not mention it

[Royalk]

I notice with non usb3 M4A89TD PRO bios 1006, it's overvolting quite heftily with LLC on, 1.475v = 1.524 full load prime 95, not a big deal I will just drop voltage to compensate but would be nice to set a voltage and actually get it as LLC Off = undershooting what I set quite a bit. A simple fix would be a middle option. LLC Off, 50% LLC and 100 % LLC.

Maybe Hexacore CPUs will have a more heavy overvolting.
My 955 set 1.4625v in BIOS, CPU-Z shows 1.476v on idle and 1.488v on load, same as previous BIOS.

[chew*]

Maybe Hexacore CPUs will have a more heavy overvolting.
My 955 set 1.4625v in BIOS, CPU-Z shows 1.476v on idle and 1.488v on load, same as previous BIOS.

load as in prime 95 or just a game?

I'm set at about 1.4375 for example right now to compensate doing some testing in prime 95, Load = 1.488-1.50. I use LLC only to keep voltage more consistent, it bounces around quite a bit more off.

Target is 1.475 which I will hit with these settings IDLE.

It may have more to do with the way turbo is implemented on chip. I like control and don't want my chip doing stuff I don't tell it to do especially when doing reviews, that said turbo is off. What could be happening is turbo is told to be off multi wise but the cpu and or microcode isn't smart enough to say hey we don't need to ramp voltage now becasue turbo is off. Thats a very logical explanation why instead of having some droop voltage ramps up even more when loaded as that is the way turbo was designed to work.

It's not a big deal LLC percentages will allow closer to accurate set voltages for all parties.

[VoXPCS]

first post, thanks for letting me be a part of the community.

I've been following this thread closely and I'm assuming that the Crosshair IV Forumla BIOS 1005 is the final version? Since it's on ASUS' download page?

[hokiealumnus]

first post, thanks for letting me be a part of the community.

I've been following this thread closely and I'm assuming that the Crosshair IV Forumla BIOS 1005 is the final version? Since it's on ASUS' download page?

Negative; from 8/30:

Update -

We are down to one last critical bug to be fixed in the new BIOS code before I can start releasing the betas. Sorry about the delay but trying to get the new code as right as possible the first time out instead of playing the release and patch cycle. Of course two Typhoons hitting Taiwan this week does not help.

At least I hope not b/c I'm still getting the wild vCore swings one way or the other with LLC on and off, just like chew is.

[zoomee]

1606 is official and on the M4A89GTDPRo-USB3 Page on asus's site

[birdiex]

first post, thanks for letting me be a part of the community.

I've been following this thread closely and I'm assuming that the Crosshair IV Forumla BIOS 1005 is the final version? Since it's on ASUS' download page?

It's official, they are just working on another BIOS

[VoXPCS]

It's official, they are just working on another BIOS

You mean another BIOS for the Crosshair IV Formula or they're working on a different BIOS for a different board all together?

[Praz]

You mean another BIOS for the Crosshair IV Formula or they're working on a different BIOS for a different board all together?

1005 is an official BIOS for the C4F but is not the version being posted about in this thread. The BIOS for the C4F being discussed in this thread is still in QC.

[birdiex]

Yes, that was I meant, sorry for the confusion

[Oo88oO]

Hi bingo13, thanks for the latest BIOS release.

Following on from my earlier posting regarding possible issues with GPU clock error and USB header (issues still present in 1606 BIOS), below are findings for two different 1055T processors:

1) Max CPU Bus Frequency overclock results (HyperPI 32M, y-cruncher Kasumi stable): i) 1055T, 125W processor - 305 MHz; ii) 1055T, 95W processor – 299 MHz [300 MHz (CPU-Z) in Windows environment – disparity between BIOS and Windows environment]
2) CPU Bus Frequency for 1055T, 95W processor is prone to moving around a fair bit, i.e. a setting of 302 MHz in the BIOS results in values of between 302 and 306.7 MHz in Windows environment (CPU-Z).
3) CPU Core voltage for 95W processor in Turbo mode reaches 1.49V (Everest), for 1.275V CPU voltage setting in BIOS, and AMD OverDrive erroneously reports multiplier value up to 20 when set to 15 in BIOS – recognising that this could be an issue with the AMD OverDrive software.

ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3; AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 125W/95W; 4GB OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 @ 7-7-7-20 27tRC, 1T 1.725V; 2 x 1TB Western Digital WD1002FAEX SATA 6Gbps Caviar Black, RAID 0; 1TB Samsung F3 HD103SJ; Lite-On iHAS124; Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD; Noctua NH-C12P SE14; 1 x Arctic F12 PWM, 2 x Arctic F9 PWM; 4GB Corsair Flash Voyager GT (ReadyBoost); Corsair HX450; Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

[Royalk]

load as in prime 95 or just a game?

I'm set at about 1.4375 for example right now to compensate doing some testing in prime 95, Load = 1.488-1.50. I use LLC only to keep voltage more consistent, it bounces around quite a bit more off.

Target is 1.475 which I will hit with these settings IDLE.

It may have more to do with the way turbo is implemented on chip. I like control and don't want my chip doing stuff I don't tell it to do especially when doing reviews, that said turbo is off. What could be happening is turbo is told to be off multi wise but the cpu and or microcode isn't smart enough to say hey we don't need to ramp voltage now becasue turbo is off. Thats a very logical explanation why instead of having some droop voltage ramps up even more when loaded as that is the way turbo was designed to work.

It's not a big deal LLC percentages will allow closer to accurate set voltages for all parties.

Load on Prime 95. Disabling LLC may cause a ~0.06v vdroop for my x4 955.

Changing to 1055T and the same board, LLC overvolt goes higher. Set 1.4125v for 4GHz and shows 1.452-1.464v on CPU-Z under Prime 95 load. Similarly as yours.

I'm struggling if CPU-Z voltage value is a bit higher than actual on M4A89TD? I have measured vcore use a voltmeter on C4F, and it is always ~0.02v lower than what CPU-Z showed (1.4125v 4GHz setted in BIOS as M4A89TD, 1.438-1.440v measured, 1.452-1.464v on CPU-Z under Prime 95 load), I doubt this because I'm not sure if C4F's LLC level is the same as M4A89TD.

[chew*]

Load on Prime 95. Disabling LLC may cause a ~0.06v vdroop for my x4 955.

Changing to 1055T and the same board, LLC overvolt goes higher. Set 1.4125v for 4GHz and shows 1.452-1.464v on CPU-Z under Prime 95 load. Similarly as yours.

I'm struggling if CPU-Z voltage value is a bit higher than actual on M4A89TD? I have measured vcore use a voltmeter on C4F, and it is always ~0.02v lower than what CPU-Z showed (1.4125v 4GHz setted in BIOS as M4A89TD, 1.438-1.440v measured, 1.452-1.464v on CPU-Z under Prime 95 load), I doubt this because I'm not sure if C4F's LLC level is the same as M4A89TD.

I've measured, it's preety accurate.

[_Cyber_]

Any M3N-HT love? its been like 3 months

next week.

lol ...

[I.nfraR.ed]

I'm experiencing difficulties holding the previous stable OC on M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 - 4267MHz with 1.403125V (set in bios), resulting in 1.416V (or similar) in cpu-z while idle and 1.44 - 1.52V (cpu-z) under Prime95 load. Now, with bios 1605 and 1606 it seems that even 1.44V - 1.45V (set in bios) doesn't help. I put back the frequency to 4GHz with 1.33V, but I want to have my previous result again. However, the reason could be different and it could be something in my system, instead of a bios problem. LLC is enabled on the CPU and disabled for CPU-NB. It seems that CPU-NB is working on the same voltage as before - I tested that. My Corsair GTX2, however, needed a slight bump in voltage from 1.69 to 1.7025 or smth. If you need any other info, please let me know and I will do whatever I'm able to help. I have currently unused Crosshair IV, I could try the same components with it.

Edit: I think 1303 was the best for OC, but I'm not sure about the exact version.
Edit2: The CPU hadn't been tortured at all. I've run some benchmarks but as I remember 1.58V was the max on cinebench and as I see here, some people are putting over 1.6V into it. I have a descent water-cooling setup, load temperatures never went too high. Even on SuperPi 1M @ 4676MHz I've used 1.58V, lol.

[CrimInalA]

Bingo13, maybe you can tell us what we are waiting for and what bug is being crushed at the moment ?