Originally Posted by Mats
tdp as in power draw ...
by the amount of post bulldozer would perform much like an old 80's cpu ....That's an easy riddle
"You" are :drumroll: : The IPC decrease man ! The more you post ,the more it decreases
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how sad,he's not even here,yet he still controls AMD threads
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this thread is strong with the fanboi-force...
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Fixed.
n (TBH -- I don't really see the fanboy crappola in this thread like we saw in the other BD thread).
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this is funny
i'd lol
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AMD vs. Nvidia. Or internal fight between AMD vs. ATI.
Note :
This is:
When AMD had 64-bit and Intel had only 32-bit, they tried to tell the world there was no need for 64-bit. Until they got 64-bit.
When AMD had IMC and Intel had FSB, they told the world "there is plenty of life left in the FSB" (actual quote, and yes, they had *math* to show it had more bandwidth). Until they got an IMC.
When AMD had dual core and Intel had single core, they told the world that consumers don't need multi core. Until they got dual core.
When intel was using MCM, they said it was a better solution than native dies. Until they got native dies. (To be fair, we knocked *unconnected* MCM, and still do, we never knocked MCM as a technology, so hold your flames.)by John Fruehe
Isn't it possible that this is only a part of a full die?
A full die shot has on all the sides a blue ribbon that states the division between the processors on a wafer for the cutting (I think). This die shot has only two sides with a ribben (top and right) seems to me that this is not the full die?
Compare that to a full die shot of istanbul.
Still doesn't explain the reasen why the different pieces are not the same size.
I have two good eyes.
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Looks like AMD photochop goons messed up not only the CPU cores, but a part of IMC/NB area:
The structures, highlighted in the green rectangle, have been clone-stamped over and over again with patterns from the IMC/NB to the right side, to fill out (completely conceal) something equally important to the cores.
I can only speculate, that this is an L3 directory cache and routing logic, if we are to believe the four L3 partitions are private to each "module".
Nice find, interesting that they conceal such a large part of the die. (edit: IT'S THE NINTH CORE! :O)
I wonder why there is so much "wasted" die space, so much brown areas that don't seem to do much at all. Is it all decaps?
They learned from Nvidia, I guess?
Wait wait...no hexa core for bulldozzer?
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A.) that is a full 8-core die
B. Please read the thread for all of your other answers.
No native hexacore, but AMD might disable one of the modules you see in the dieshot to make one.
or make a 3 module hexacore .... anyway anything is possible but one thing is for sure ... 32nm and 22nm are going to be epic on the amd side
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Or two different cores in two different modules...
A native hexacore is very unlikely, it would need a total redesign of the ship to put three modules in line. Probably better to just disable 4-module chips.
I doubt that is possible, the cores share to much parts within a module. You would only turn of the integers, all other parts still has to be activated.
Check this two roadmaps :
I think AMD choosen to Show us the die of Orochi. A BD core seem to be canceled, i would say BD1.
It's clear the second roadmap is less old, with thuban and AM3r2 for BD.
So i think Orochi was BD1, Zambezi is BD2, the real BD incoming.
And lynx maintream have a GPU on die, it's not for only low end. !!!
Good heavens!
If you stare hard and long enough, you will discover a McDonald's BigMac nestled next to the L1D structure.
No. IIIRC Orochi(the name of the chip family) is Bulldozer(code name for the whole next gen core design) that was always slated for 2011.The "BD 1" was a 45nm version that was never on the 2011 roadmap. Zambezi is the code name for the desktop parts in the Orochi group.
The new design is fully modular(M-Space), in theory they should be able to swap diffrent core types/GPU cores round in almost any combination. Think the first few with BD cpu's will only have BD cores in and they will save the mixing and matching till after that's out the door. Looks like they have 4 modules slots to play with at 28nm. If the GPU modules turn out good, they could put 2 of those into those slots and have an amazing all in 1 chip for gamers. Extreme gamers will still be using the tri-xfire/sli setups tho
If orochi was "BD1", why are they showing it on the 32nm node, when BD1 was 45nm?Check this two roadmaps :
I think AMD choosen to Show us the die of Orochi. A BD core seem to be canceled, i would say BD1.
It's clear the second roadmap is less old, with thuban and AM3r2 for BD.
So i think Orochi was BD1, Zambezi is BD2, the real BD incoming.
And lynx maintream have a GPU on die, it's not for only low end. !!!
Surely this is nothing more than a 32nm DB, with photoshopping and pixelating to stop those evil and dastardly Intel spies?
cant wait till amd shows us some numbers
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