Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

[V I P E R]

F13k will be flashed tomorrow .

As far as F13J, i was surprised that the cold boot problem with detecting only 4Gb out of 6 is solved. On same voltages and overclock (24/7 stable settings) with previous BIOS-es I've had 2 GB of ram missing every once in a while until shut down PC and power it again to detect all 6Gb, but with the new BIOS that bug is gone, and I didn't re-suited my CPU or made any changes on the setup.

[Strages]

As far as F13J, i was surprised that the cold boot problem with detecting only 4Gb out of 6 is solved.

I am glad to hear this. For a while there, I was wondering if there was something wrong with my RAM! I might actually flash to F13k now.

[vrdublu]

Ok so I got it up to 200 bclk rather easily, but noticed 17x and 18x uncore are a little unpredictable and require a lot of QPI/VTT. Thinking of going up to 210-220 bclk just for s and giggles. My voltages are not bad and never go over 75c on water. Wondering if I should start messing with some of the secondary volatges in the bios. When do you find you need to start adjusting them?

[kaskuli]

When it's all said and done, this mobo ( EX58-UD5 ) will be fondly remembered as the one that just works...

For me it's so stable, it's boring...

[kaskuli]

Damn this thread is DEAD !!!!!!!

Yup, pretty much. If you like really busy threads, get a new motherboard with a buggy pre-release BIOS

[sin0822]

i think its dead b/c u cant buy the board anymore it has been replaced with the x58a-ud5, i have one, but i dont post here b/c i dont feel like its the right place.

[vrdublu]

i think its dead b/c u cant buy the board anymore it has been replaced with the x58a-ud5, i have one, but i dont post here b/c i dont feel like its the right place.

Umm......... I thought the GA-X58 and GA-X58A-UD5 were the same, lol. I have the latter. I gotta say though this has been absolutely the best board I have ever worked with. Perhaps it's from doing a bit of research before I bought that helped.
I made some tweaks to the secondary settings and it helped me lower my QPI/VTT quite a bit from 1.335-1.295. She be rock solid now

[sin0822]

I feel like they are different boards. Technically the EX58-UD5 and X58A-UD5 to me are a little different. I think the x58a-ud5 replaced the EX58-ud5, but i cant prove it.

[acebmxer]

I believe the only difference is usb3 sata3 and pci over 103 for 225+ blck for the any X58A-UDx

[sin0822]

the power phases of each board are different too depending on the revision.

[Hornet331]

The f13k is ok, but the oc menue is a bit sluggish.... finaly fixes the problems with my g19.

[Ic3man]

I've not managed to get on with any BIOS after F6. Can't get any of the latter BIOS to boot at anything over 160Bclk. I've tried everything I can think of, same settings or starting over has made no difference. On F6 I can run 4.3ghz linx stable.

Is there something obvious I'm missing?

[acebmxer]

I've not managed to get on with any BIOS after F6. Can't get any of the latter BIOS to boot at anything over 160Bclk. I've tried everything I can think of, same settings or starting over has made no difference. On F6 I can run 4.3ghz linx stable.

Is there something obvious I'm missing?

Make sure you disable keep dmi pool and make sure you load optimized defaults after flash. Im Running 4.5ghz 24/7 stable on f12j

[Ic3man]

Make sure you disable keep dmi pool.

Where's that setting mate?

I tried out F13k yesterday but as with every other BIOS after F6 I just get the 1 second boot loop constantly with anything over 160bclk. Like I said, it's very weird as running F6 I am 4.3 stable so I know my D0 is not a bum chip. My only concern is that it needs alot of QPI (1.45+) to run at this speed (6GB 2000Mhz DRAM). I do like the look of the new BIOS, just wish I could get it to run with a decent speed.

[Ic3man]

NVM, found it but still getting same result. Indicator says C1 (memory?) but I can't see it being that as I have lowered that right down to 1200. Anyway, heres my settings that I am using on F6:

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ...................... [enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled .............................. [all]
CPU Multi Threading .............................[enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ........................ [disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ......................... [disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ............................ [disabled]
CPU EIST Function .............................. [disabled]
Virtualization Technology ...................... [disabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ......................... [disabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................[x36]
Uncore Frequency ............................[x16] - Tried 15, 17, 18

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control .......................... [200]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........................ [auto] - Tried 101,102,103.
C.I.A.2........................................... .. [disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mv]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mv]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [auto]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [auto]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [manual]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................[7]
tRCD ..................................[8]
tRP ...................................[7]
tRAS ..................................[20]
CR.....................................[1]



Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping
Load Line Calibration ................. [enabled]
CPU Vcore ..............................[1.400]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v .................[AUTO] - 1.435V
CPU PLL 1.800v .........................[1.80]
PCIE 1.500v ...........................[auto]
QPI PLL 1.100v ........................[AUTO]
IOH Core 1.100v .......................[AUTO]
ICH I/O 1.500v ........................[AUTO]
ICH Core 1.1v .........................[AUTO]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.68]
DRAM Termination 0.750v.......... [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]

I have used the above settings on every BIOS after F6 and none will boot above 165bclk!

Any ideas?

[acebmxer]

The only thing that stands out to me is your memory timings... try 8-8-8-20 or 9-9-9-24 to see if it boots. Are you using those voltages at 165+ bclk on newer bios's?

[Ic3man]

The vcore drops to 1.36 in windows and droops to 1.345 under load.

I've tried all manner of memory timings which have made no difference. Yeah QPI seems to want to be high, AUTO sets it at 1.5+! Tried 1.35 and got BSOD in lynx.

[vrdublu]

The vcore drops to 1.36 in windows and droops to 1.345 under load.

I've tried all manner of memory timings which have made no difference. Yeah QPI seems to want to be high, AUTO sets it at 1.5+! Tried 1.35 and got BSOD in lynx.

What is the BSOD # 101? 124? or E3 or similar, this can tell you whether it's a CPU or QPI/Ram issue.

[Ic3man]

Can't remember off hand but as it only happens when I lower QPI voltage that pretty much narrows it down . Weird as hell as it's stable as a rock with f4-f6 but anything later and it just bums out .

[Strages]

What is the BSOD # 101? 124? or E3 or similar, this can tell you whether it's a CPU or QPI/Ram issue.

Is there a thread outlining what BSODs to look for and which component they are tied to? That would be amazingly helpful.

[vrdublu]

Is there a thread outlining what BSODs to look for and which component they are tied to? That would be amazingly helpful.

No, not that I remember, but I have noticed that whenever it's a Bsod 124 than it's your QPI/VTT or RAM, normally your QPI/VTT. If it's BSOD 101, or a two digit ie: E3 or similar than it's your CPU Voltage. Also, to get stability I found that QPI/VTT isn't always what's needed, as a matter of fact too much QPI/VTT will harm your OC as much as not enough. When playing around with the Uncore, I found that the x16 multi required a little IOH Core bump, as a matter of fact, every time you bump your your Uncore, bump your IOH Core. As an example: x16 Uncore multi requires 1.18 IOH Core on my rig, to go to x17 multi I find I need 1.26 IOH Core, x18 multi requires 1.34 etc etc.........Now, increasing your IOH Core does raise the temps somewhat but at the same time helps you lower your QPI/VTT. If you look earlier in the thread I had my QPI/VTT @ 1.335 and once I discovered that messing with IOH Core helped me to stabilize the system I was able to lower it to 1.2950. Another thing for testing I have found very usefull is Hyper Pi run 32m with 16cores, if you go through it around 25min to finish and don't get "not exact in round" than your QPI/Vtt and mem are 100% stable, I found that here actually in this thread, very useful tool for testing mem and QPI in windows. I don't remember who had suggested it, but thanks if you're reading this. The other thing I use is IBT for testing the CPU cores, usually never run more than 5 instances, but for final I will do 10. Obviously if it passes than it's ok. If you get varying Gflops between runs, I have found messing with your CPU PLL helps, as in my case I lowered mine to 1.7V. Great board and platform to work with this board is, and the X58 chipset. GL have fun.

[acebmxer]

Is there a thread outlining what BSODs to look for and which component they are tied to? That would be amazingly helpful.

0x00000050 << Incorrect memory timing/freq or uncore multi
0x00000124 << incorrect qpi/vtt voltage ( to much/not enough)
0x00000101 << not enough Vcore voltage


if setting are really out of wack 124 and 101 can reverse them selves


Any other bsod other then them codes are most likely low or not enough vcore but can be qpi/vtt voltage.

[vrdublu]

F6 Bios is out, not much difference that I can see other than quicker boot times and had to bump CPU Voltage a bit. This link is for the GA-X58A-UD5 Rev 1.0. Good Bios so far http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...d=3304&dl=1#dl

[Ic3man]

Thanks for the help guys but it turns out my problems were related to a dodgy PSU. Over the last week I kept getting sporadic reboots up to the point where the damn thing wouldn't even post! New PSU and everything is working perfectly....even on the latest BIOS!!! Weird that a dodgy PSU could cause BIOS issues but hey, I ain't complaining now it's all going well. Time to do some proper testing now .

[stasio]

F6 Bios is out, not much difference that I can see other than quicker boot times and had to bump CPU Voltage a bit. This link is for the GA-X58A-UD5 Rev 1.0. Good Bios so far http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...d=3304&dl=1#dl

Some members as above even don't know that is EX58 Gigabyte thread.