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    Quote Originally Posted by -Boris- View Post
    So on an AM3 system there are three things that could be called NB, the IMC, the uncore and the PCIe part of the chipset?
    Usually the confusion tends to be about the chipset or the IMC, but dragging the uncore to the mix is just unnecessary.
    The uncore has nothing to do with traditional NB-functions.
    Well the traditional NB had:
    FSB Interface, IMC and SB connection.

    Now AMD stresses the IMC, so FSB and SB connector are left out.

    FSB is now Hypertransport (well at least from the point of view of Multi processing, otherwise it is the Xbar), and the SB connect was back then PCI, nowadays PCIe - seems fine to me.

    Noooooooo:
    I am listening now to the telephone conference of last week...
    On the one hand, one AMD lady speaks of an "electric upgrade", on the other hand, an AMD guy said that:
    To clarify on the socket question:

    Bulldozer products will not be drop in for AM3; so it will require a different socket, we are calling AM3+, our AM3+ I am sorry AM3 CPUs will be able to - will function in an AM3+ Bulldozer socket, so you can bring your previous CPUs into the AM3 infrastructure, but not the other way round.
    Now I guess I know, how the confusions started .. with that guy, because he said AM3 in the end, instead of AM3+.
    However in his case - I think it is clear what he wants to say .. he mixed up Am3 and Am3+ before, and he mixed it probably up in the end, too, but I believe he wants to say that it is not compatible

    Well seems like AM3+ will be the same like the infamous VRM11 update of S775


    Sooo saaad

    Let's hope that guy misunderstood something himself - hey AMDs internal flow of information is know to be bad - but honestly I dont think so
    Last edited by Opteron146; 08-24-2010 at 03:58 AM.

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