Condensation??

[ny_driver]

I currently have my pc-board screwed to the ceiling to allow condensation to drip.

With a water-chiller will there be more condensation to worry about than my current solution will handle?

[Patrickclouds]

are you joking
what is you current cooling system that makes you trouble with condensation?

if you are using a water chiller or anything else that cools a bit below roomtemp, you need to insulate those components and also the water cooling tubes. in short everything that gets colder than roomtemp.

[ny_driver]

are you joking
what is you current cooling system that makes you trouble with condensation?

if you are using a water chiller or anything else that cools a bit below roomtemp, you need to insulate those components and also the water cooling tubes. in short everything that gets colder than roomtemp.

Naww I'm serious. I was using a freezer full of blocks of ice and my rad submerged in a dishpan filled with antifreeze/water near the bottom of the freezer. So first thing in the morning, after the pc being off all night or longer the temps would be single digits for the cpu and teens for the gpus. Problem is that it didn't last that long. Too much work.

But anyways I have my pc on the ceiling now because I got tired of trying to mop up all the condensation with paper towels......and the rad reaches the A/C just out of sight to the left so gpu/gpu/cpu are idling @ 23/23/21c atm.

[sdumper]

Naww I'm serious. I was using a freezer full of blocks of ice and my rad submerged in a dishpan filled with antifreeze/water near the bottom of the freezer. So first thing in the morning, after the pc being off all night or longer the temps would be single digits for the cpu and teens for the gpus. Problem is that it didn't last that long. Too much work.

But anyways I have my pc on the ceiling now because I got tired of trying to mop up all the condensation with paper towels......and the rad reaches the A/C just out of sight to the left so cpu/gpu/gpu are idling @ 21/23/23c atm.

[Patrickclouds]

absolutely cool

[[XC] gomeler]

Oh my. I've never seen such a complex solution to a simple problem Have you inspected your board and GPUs for corrosion? Any condensation that forms on the electronics will yield corrosion and destroy the hardware over time. Nothing short of proper insulation and sealing will prevent it.

[ny_driver]

EDIT: All I did was attach the PSU to the board and flip it upside down. Here is what it looked like before the ceiling. The only place I have seen any condensation since is on the outside of the waterblocks. The board is brand new and the condensation is a fairly new issue.

Where would condensation be forming primarily that I need to look for? Nothing else is getting cold besides the waterblocks and the condensation has to drip on the floor now instead of seeping into my cpu socket(again), right?

[Sn0wm@n]

insulate the waterblock and around the socket ... there are guides i believe in the phase change section... and if not gomeler and the likes will most likely help you out

[ny_driver]

Thanks, but I thought hanging it upside down would eliminate the risk of condensation getting in the board. I don't see how it can get on the board or anything else with it upside down at the angle it is at. It can form on the IHS itself, but it has to drip onto the block and then the floor.

Will condensation actually begin to form on the pins in the cpu socket with say -40c? I better get some grease in there and around it.

[Sn0wm@n]

well you dont want help so it seems ... so why even create a thread askin help about condensation proofing your stuff ???

condensation happens when you go under the dew point ....hotter part in contact or close to a cool part will create moisture wich is bad to electronic devices .... easy as that ... insulate everything that is on water

[ny_driver]

well you dont want help so it seems ... so why even create a thread askin help about condensation proofing your stuff ???

condensation happens when you go under the dew point ....hotter part in contact or close to a cool part will create moisture wich is bad to electronic devices .... easy as that ... insulate everything that is on water

No you misunderstood me. I do want help.

That's why I asked questions.

I am just trying to figure out what I will actually need to insulate. I know that some if not most of the condensation will drip on the floor.

Sounds like something anti-corrosive on the gpus might be a good idea. And if indeed the moisture will still accumulate on the board around the socket even upside down, then obviously I need to do something about that as well. EDIT: I guess I definitely will have to insulate.

I understand how condensation happens, and I am trying to use gravity to help prevent seepage.

[rickss69]

NY Driver - Pm's sent.

[ReverendMaynard]

Love it. Gravity is free....use it.

[Kal-EL]

I love the "home brew" action bro

Are you gonna be running sub-zero or sub-ambient daily?

[ny_driver]

Thanks guys!

I plan to run it sub ambient at least all the time if I can. I like to keep it nice and cool. I'll probably actually end up running it sub-zero all the time, although I don't run it 24/7 by any stretch of the imagination.

I'd also like to see if I can get my chip stable above 4.242GHz....I validated @ 4.424GHz

[Gautam]

You're playing a dangerous game, because once you go colder, other parts of the motherboard will have condensation forming on them as well, and it doesn't matter if it drips off. It'll already have killed your board by then. Ditto to the socket pins, and not to mention the back of the board. You aren't the first guy to "condensation-proof" by hanging a setup upside down, but it's the sort of thing you do only if you're trying to play russian roulette with your hardware and/or are only running it for a quick bench session.

Do not grease the socket up, just use some proper insulation and you won't even need to worry about condensation forming anywhere you don't want it to.

[MaadDaawg]

When you go subzero, how ya gonna keep the LN2 in the pots

[gosmeyer]

You're playing a dangerous game, because once you go colder, other parts of the motherboard will have condensation forming on them as well, and it doesn't matter if it drips off.

+1 That's the bottom line

[Kal-EL]

When you go subzero, how ya gonna keep the LN2 in the pots

Good one dawg Just turn the house upside down


NY, just check out some of the sub-zero insulation threads and figure out what works best for you. Extended sub-ambient (past dew-point) runs with create some condensation issues eventually. All depends how deep you go with the cold.

[ny_driver]

For now I am just going to have a water chiller built from my 6500 BTU air conditioner. Definitely cold enough to have a fair amount of condensation though......I would hope.

When you go subzero, how ya gonna keep the LN2 in the pots

I'll have to build another rig for that I guess.....bummer I probably plan to go phase change, but LN2 looks so "mad scientist" I must try it.

[lalPOOO]

You're playing a dangerous game, because once you go colder, other parts of the motherboard will have condensation forming on them as well, and it doesn't matter if it drips off. It'll already have killed your board by then. Ditto to the socket pins, and not to mention the back of the board. You aren't the first guy to "condensation-proof" by hanging a setup upside down, but it's the sort of thing you do only if you're trying to play russian roulette with your hardware and/or are only running it for a quick bench session.

Do not grease the socket up, just use some proper insulation and you won't even need to worry about condensation forming anywhere you don't want it to.

I'd second this. As ingenious as your current setup is, it doesn't really do anything for your socket or the back of your motherboard. If you keep it this way you will eventually suffer from either water building up in the socket and shorting, or corroding everything.

[andressergio]

Naww I'm serious. I was using a freezer full of blocks of ice and my rad submerged in a dishpan filled with antifreeze/water near the bottom of the freezer. So first thing in the morning, after the pc being off all night or longer the temps would be single digits for the cpu and teens for the gpus. Problem is that it didn't last that long. Too much work.

But anyways I have my pc on the ceiling now because I got tired of trying to mop up all the condensation with paper towels......and the rad reaches the A/C just out of sight to the left so gpu/gpu/cpu are idling @ 23/23/21c atm.

man i would be scared if the CORSAIR felts over ma head lol

thats so awesome !

[ny_driver]

It did fall once during the installation....got a little dent you can see in the picture.

I'll be insulating my stuff before any more extreme cooling...back on regular water for now while I am constructing my chiller. I'll post a picture in the thread about turning my a/c into a cpu cooler.

[josh1980]

I'm just curious...

Your power supply is mounted to your motherboard's backplate. Where did you get that? Do you have a model number? I have a use for several of those for crunchers

-Josh

[ny_driver]

It's attached to a black piece of plywood behind the black motherboard tray. It's only up there with black wire and some screws.