Quote Originally Posted by JF-AMD View Post
Fooling someone will allow me to sell a processor. Telling the truth is what helps you sell millions of processors.

There is way too much on the line for me to be "fooling" people.
A good product sells itself, a bad one doesn't. Marketing is there to help the good products to sell even more and to help the bad ones to sell something. Marketing teams almost always tell the truth. The problem is not what they tell you, it's what they don't tell you. You, with emphasys in you, are fooling your potential customers just as much as any other marketing guy.

I'll say this one time only: let's have a clear and sincere conversation. Sincere doesn't mean sharing results. Don't try to fool me because it's not going to work. Don't take this as an offense, again I'm sure you know what I'm refering to, so please.

Quote Originally Posted by JF-AMD View Post
Actually, I can't get into specifics, but I would be willing to bet that my processor actually performs better at half load than anyone here would ever expect.

It will be very interesting to see a 16-thread SB with 8 active threads vs. a 16-thread interlagos with 8 active threads.
I'll take that bet. I can guarantee you right now that your processor won't be able to match my expectations.

And yes, it'll be very interesting. I'm looking forward to it.