Both 5870 and 480 unable to handle Starcraft II official campaign at 30 fps

[Carfax]

Seem nvidia is in panic mode with this tricks.

What on Earth does Nvidia have to do with this?

[zanzabar]

What on Earth does Nvidia have to do with this?

i think that he is saying that NV payed them off to only put that up for ati, as its a site that always is pro NV and is know to bench things to favor them. but this would happen with NV or any1 with that system as its all cpu. just look at it, each attack on each unit has like 10 roles, then when u have over a hounded units all needing the cpu on a single threaded game what else would happen.

this would happen with anything and thats what i think its the comment is for, but i dont see any1 picking a card to play SC2 as its fully playable even with low fps as its an RTS.

[Johnny87au]

WHAT?

What's the point in running in windowed mode? I mean, really, who games in a window?!

Back in the day i use to for d3, every bit of fps counted hehe, But yeah 30fps maby if it was a eyefinity resolution but i dont see how it would be 30 fps on a 1080p or @ 1920 res.. seems low

[Red Maw]

the game is single threaded, it dose the same on my 1090 it rocks low usage but thats the bottleneck with all rts games as its a matter of dice calculations

Interesting, I could have swore I saw my cpu hit 50+% usage while playing. Maybe I forgot to turn off another program though, no telling until I play again.

[tajoh111]

i think that he is saying that NV payed them off to only put that up for ati, as its a site that always is pro NV and is know to bench things to favor them. but this would happen with NV or any1 with that system as its all cpu. just look at it, each attack on each unit has like 10 roles, then when u have over a hounded units all needing the cpu on a single threaded game what else would happen.

this would happen with anything and thats what i think its the comment is for, but i dont see any1 picking a card to play SC2 as its fully playable even with low fps as its an RTS.

When has chiphell become NV favorable?

I have seen alot of leaks from them that have made NV look unfavorable, especially with unreleased products.

http://www.techreaction.net/2010/03/...h-the-fingers/

E.g gtx 470 vs 5870 in the above article. If they are always pro-nvidia, explain the above article.

http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f...s-beans-71048/

The above is more accurate than anything and does not seem pro nvidia at all.

Chiphell is way more known for early hardware leaks than anything.

It sounds like your trying to explain a rationalize something, but your just talking out of your ass.

[zanzabar]

When has chiphell become NV favorable?

I have seen alot of leaks from them that have made NV look unfavorable, especially with unreleased products.

Chiphell is way more known for early hardware leaks than anything.

i remember on the g92 and g200, they had some bias but it could just be those. im not trying to say that they are a toms or legit or start a debate on it. it just looks like its being anti ati from the lack of NV when its the same problem as its a cpu one

[tajoh111]

i remember on the g92 and g200, they had some bias but it could just be those. im not trying to say that they are a toms or legit or start a debate on it. it just looks like its being anti ati from the lack of NV when its the same problem as its a cpu one

One more thing. What was posted was a forum post. Do you think Nvidia, would be paying someone to just post a forum post rather than a article.

Atleast they would get a full fledged article out of it. Just think about it. How much effect you think a forum post is going to attract? And how much damage is going to happen to AMD.

This is just Nintendork being a irrational or fanboyish.

I guess it not impossible though..Look what happened to Nedjo. He stopped posting because his post looked like he was basically trying to sabotage anything that wasn't AMD related and Movieman said, basically if he attacks another NV or Intel thread again, he going to get banned.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=57

Guess what, he stopped posting altogether. Nedjo works for AMD marketing.

So since AMD is capable of paying people to post forum crap, it doesn't make it impossible.

[zanzabar]

One more thing. What was posted was a forum post. Do you think Nvidia, would be paying someone to just post a forum post rather than a article.

Atleast they would get a full fledged article out of it. Just think about it. How much effect you think a forum post is going to attract? And how much damage is going to happen to AMD.

This is just Nintendork being a irrational or fanboyish.

I guess it not impossible though..Look what happened to Nedjo. He stopped posting because his post looked like he was basically trying to sabotage anything that wasn't AMD related and Movieman said, basically if he attacks another NV or Intel thread again, he going to get banned.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=57

Guess what, he stopped posting altogether. Nedjo works for AMD marketing.

So since AMD is capable of paying people to post forum crap, it doesn't make it impossible.

makes sense we have had that on both sides then. i really hate all of thees sc2 threads made from people who dont do RTS games, rts are all about low fps

[duploxxx]

Utter crap this post regarding fps, perhaps they should test with some other cards to.

i wish i still had 10.3 installed 10.7 and my screen goes black sometimes playing sc2

HAd the same issue; running 10.3 untill beta16, once beta 17 released sometimes black screen, this was reported often in beta forum. upgrading to 10.6 fixed my issue, no more issues afterwards in final release

One more thing. What was posted was a forum post. Do you think Nvidia, would be paying someone to just post a forum post rather than a article.

Atleast they would get a full fledged article out of it. Just think about it. How much effect you think a forum post is going to attract? And how much damage is going to happen to AMD.

This is just Nintendork being a irrational or fanboyish.

I guess it not impossible though..Look what happened to Nedjo. He stopped posting because his post looked like he was basically trying to sabotage anything that wasn't AMD related and Movieman said, basically if he attacks another NV or Intel thread again, he going to get banned.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=57

Guess what, he stopped posting altogether. Nedjo works for AMD marketing.

So since AMD is capable of paying people to post forum crap, it doesn't make it impossible.

lol you are joking right, or you are a joke with such a post Nedjo wasn't payed by AMD to post crap in Intel threads, it was just his own personal intention against Intel.

[ryan92084]

funny i just did that level with all effects on high/ultra with my phenom 9850 and 4870 1gb catalyst 10.6. noticed no hiccups @ 1680x1050 running borderless windowed mode no less

[blindbox]

Wow, blowing up the proportions of a small issue. Just... wow, why is SC II so hyped?

[OutSider]

may be cause there ware many fans of SC 1 ?

[Hornet331]

lol you are joking right, or you are a joke with such a post Nedjo wasn't payed by AMD to post crap in Intel threads, it was just his own personal intention against Intel.

He just forget to mentioned that he works for amd marketing.. so yeah... i guess his opinion has nothing to do with his job at all.

[duploxxx]

He just forget to mentioned that he works for amd marketing.. so yeah... i guess his opinion has nothing to do with his job at all.

so you're ANTI AMD and PRO Intel opinion is also lousy so cut the crap, weather or not you work is IT related, one should be able to have his own opinion. same goes for JF - dr who and others....

[jasonelmore]

It's the cloaked effect on the Protoss Units that rape frame rates

[xlink]

my 4870 handled that mission just fine. 1680*1050 everything maxed.

don't think it's an issue.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Seem nvidia is in panic mode with this tricks.

Interesting observation.

[N19h7m4r3]

A complete joke and not even properly researched.

I JUST finished that mission not 30 minutes ago on my gaming rig (HD 5870 + i5 750) without a single hitch or hiccup.

I did the same a few days ago with my 4870X2 and AMD 940. No hiccups no lag nothing throughout the entire game.

Hell I'm still running 10.2 drivers here. Windowed mode alone would kill performance probably.

[sniper_sung]

WHAT?

What's the point in running in windowed mode? I mean, really, who games in a window?!

I would always prefer window mode if possible, as I don't have multiple monitors.

no issues with a 4850... but with no comparison benchmarks and basically cherry picked situation, i'm going to deem this review an epic fail

Haven't had a problem with my rig at all. Smooth frame rates, all the time. This is with 4xAA at 1920x1200 too.
I mean, a new CPU might do me good, but I'm trying to hold off till 2011 on that. This little Q6600 has served me quite well.

Edit: Forgot to say, I'm on 10.7a drivers. Though that should be obvious with the "4xAA" part.

A complete joke and not even properly researched.

I JUST finished that mission not 30 minutes ago on my gaming rig (HD 5870 + i5 750) without a single hitch or hiccup.

I would be curious to see how you guys claiming no fps drop can handle that situation. Please give a screenshot of mothership cloaking at least 12 carriers in battle, or I'll simply treat these as BS.

[mibo]

@sniper_sung: What is your point?
Everybody who ever played RTS has experienced slowdowns when larger groups of enemies fight - so nothing special here.
Is "lower than 20 fps" too slow? Then watch these graphs (scroll down the german text). It shows the cpu scaling of SC2 with a GTX480 graphics card (@1024x768 resolution without AA/AF to minimize gpu impact). There are a lot of sub 20 fps grey "minimum fps" bars - so nothing special here, either.
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,76...giespiel/Test/

Edit: A video of the test scene is shown, too.

[Soultaker52]

I would always prefer window mode if possible, as I don't have multiple monitors.







I would be curious to see how you guys claiming no fps drop can handle that situation. Please give a screenshot of mothership cloaking at least 12 carriers in battle, or I'll simply treat these as BS.

Do note that I'm not at that mission yet, I meant my experience so far has been great. The title for this article was a silly generalization that isn't true, was my point of posting mine.

[Yvese]

Also did that mission on my 5850 + Q9550. No problems on maxed settings.

Load of bs.

[Xoulz]

The reviewer isn't a gamer...

[Hell Hound]

Sounds like they just don't know wtf their doing.

[BeepBeep2]

so you're ANTI AMD and PRO Intel opinion is also lousy so cut the crap, weather or not you work is IT related, one should be able to have his own opinion. same goes for JF - dr who and others....

From what I've noticed JF doesn't post unless he can back up his statements, Dr Who seems to just post his mind.