Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
It's a very simple situation.

Technically, no rules were broken: it was not disallowed to go mipmap or disable post-processing.

Ethically, this was quite a big deal because Charles has a high-level position within the overclocking community and is expected to act as an example for all. By using tweaks that are considered by 90% of the overclocking community as illegal only because the rules within the competition don't disallow it, has left a bad taste not only with the participants in that competition, but also the people who heard about it afterwards.

As for the third remark, during the competition no one realized what was going on because everyone was focussed on their own system and the subtest scores were not visible. I bet if participants would've seen the GT2 discripancy, 5 out of 6 teams would've at least said something before the final winner announcements.

It's a field of ethics, so impossible to put a right judgement call here, I guess. Strictly speaking no faul play here ... but I can see from the thread here that some overclockers look past the rules as well.

Thanks for enlightening me.
I do hear what your saying but also saw that Charles had asked that modding registry be prohibited and that was not done?
By that lack of action did he interpret that this was allowed?
Again,I am not up on all the rules so if my questions seem clueless you'll understand.
Quote Originally Posted by crazydiamond View Post
the reason for the vapor hate is because he was going to let skinnee turn in fake scores & not say anything about it. that is OK? to be a mod on the biggest OC site & knowingly let someone cheat in global competitions, because he's your friend?

when they went over the "what ifs" vapors only "what if" should have been "if you cheat the scores i have to report you" had he said that, skinnee obviously would not have turned in the scores so his "what if" must have been closer to "if you cheat the scores you might get caught but if you dont get caught, i wont say anything"

that is wrong attitude and that is a justified reason for the hate IMO, to turn a blind eye to blatent cheating
I see this differently than you. Vapor told Skinnee his feelings on the matter and then went to bed.
How can he be held accountable in any way for what Skinnee or anyone else did.
If I tell you that I think I'm going to go rob a bank and you tell me you think thats a bad idea and then I do so are you to also be charged with the crime?
I think not.