Core i7-970 "cheapest" Intel six-core on shelves around the world

[Movieman]

Go ahead and buy 'em. Do I sound like I'm trying to save you some pennies? I hope not.

The web Intel spins is too good. Confused buyers grinning when they are blatantly ripped off, and start to help Intel to con others.

Try to identify the sleigh of hand here. It's not the result of the benchmarks (optimized or not), it's the effect on those who interpret (read) those benchmarks. The mark did not even realize which hole they've gotten into.

Forget it.

Listen for a minute:
What gets lost here is that people are individuals with likes and dislikes and BOTH sides tend to close their eyes to facts.
There is a market for both companies.
I have both Intel and AMD here myself.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages and that is just plain how it is.
You buy what you like or what YOU perceive to best fit your needs in terms of cost and need and don't forget that "like" factor.
The problem comes in when people who "like" one brand can't get it through their heads that others may like the other guys product.
Why doesn't matter,it's that persons right to choose.

[Sam_oslo]

Listen for a minute:
What gets lost here is that people are individuals with likes and dislikes and BOTH sides tend to close their eyes to facts.
There is a market for both companies.
I have both Intel and AMD here myself.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages and that is just plain how it is.
You buy what you like or what YOU perceive to best fit your needs in terms of cost and need and don't forget that "like" factor.
The problem comes in when people who "like" one brand can't get it through their heads that others may like the other guys product.
Why doesn't matter,it's that persons right to choose.

You have a good point there. Both AMD and Intel are doing good job, and we need both of them for a viable competition. Such a competition will push forward the technology and innovations, and keep the prices down too. It's all good for all of us that care about this technology. Nobody with interest for this technology needs to get rude, offensive or hostile in this forum.

The same is true for ATi and nVidia, but unfortunately there are few in this forum with too much brand-loyalty. Probably they have some other agenda and intensives, and maybe are getting payed directly or indirectly, I call them "PR-agents". Those few have a tendency to tempt others into an atmosphere of personal attacks, terror and fear to prove their own points. That's not the normal behavior for somebody who seeks to learn more.

Good moderators like you, with this kind of good attitude, should be more active with keeping those "agents" in shock. Most people are here to exchange ideas and learn from each other, but it is easy to fall for the temptations created by those "agents", and the rest of fightings will go by itself.

[Movieman]

You have a good point there. Both AMD and Intel are doing good job, and we need both of them for a viable competition. Such a competition will push forward the technology and innovations, and keep the prices down too. It's all good for all of us that care about this technology. Nobody with interest for this technology needs to get rude, offensive or hostile in this forum.

The same is true for ATi and nVidia, but unfortunately there are few in this forum with too much brand-loyalty. Probably they have some other agenda and intensives, and maybe are getting payed directly or indirectly, I call them "PR-agents". Those few have a tendency to tempt others into an atmosphere of personal attacks, terror and fear to prove their own points. That's not the normal behavior for somebody who seeks to learn more.

Good moderators like you, with this kind of good attitude, should be more active with keeping those "agents" in shock. Most people are here to exchange ideas and learn from each other, but it is easy to fall for the temptations created by those "agents", and the rest of fightings will go by itself.

The hard part for me as a moderator is to distinguish between someone with passion for the products they like and someone with an "agenda"
I tend to give a lot of leeway to people as I do understand passionate feelings.
Hell, had to change my Depends 6 times the day the SR2 board arrived and 10more just during the first day benching it!
Then the day I fired up the dual MC system seeing 24 real cores was almost another entire package of Depends..
Thank God I buy them by the truckload!

[endlesszeal]

bittech has a review on it now:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...7-970-review/1

from this sample, it reached 4.0ghz where as the EE did 4.4ghz with same voltage and setup. hopefully not all samples this weak =(

ive seen Frys and other e/re-tailers have the EE for same price as the 970 or even lower! so this is utter fail on intel's part. just crossing fingers this part will come down to about half price by x-mas....

[dartaz]

bittech has a review on it now:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...7-970-review/1

from this sample, it reached 4.0ghz where as the EE did 4.4ghz with same voltage and setup. hopefully not all samples this weak =(

ive seen Frys and other e/re-tailers have the EE for same price as the 970 or even lower! so this is utter fail on intel's part. just crossing fingers this part will come down to about half price by x-mas....

i7 970 at stock speeds performed better than PII X6 1090T @ 3.87GHz in every single benchmark according to this review

And I really hope that Intel drop its price to $550 after few months just like it did with Q6600

[-Sweeper_]

And I really hope that Intel drop its price to $550 after few months just like it did with Q6600

I'm sure it will, I just hope it doesnt take too long...

[labs23]

I'm sure it will, I just hope it doesnt take too long...

Then lower than $550, lol - and a lil longer. Come on Intel, for S1366's sake!

[Wesker]

Then lower than $550, lol - and a lil longer. Come on Intel, for S1366's sake!

Indeed.

I think Intel botched the pricing quite terribly on S1366. The 920/930, while nice, is still slightly overpriced and the 950/960 even more so. There is little benefit in spending more money on S1366 over S1156. I can understand a certain price premium, but I seriously cannot understand why Intel bothers selling the 950/960 at the price that they're asking for. For most consumers, it's either X58 + 920/930 or then they just jump down to a P55 + 860 (875K now).

[-Sweeper_]

Indeed.

I think Intel botched the pricing quite terribly on S1366. The 920/930, while nice, is still slightly overpriced and the 950/960 even more so. There is little benefit in spending more money on S1366 over S1156. I can understand a certain price premium, but I seriously cannot understand why Intel bothers selling the 950/960 at the price that they're asking for. For most consumers, it's either X58 + 920/930 or then they just jump down to a P55 + 860 (875K now).

the i7 950 will drop to u$294 at the end of august...

seriously, will someone buy the i7 960 for u$560 after that?
they could EOL it, and put the i7 970 at that price range a few weeks later... lets hope..

theres also a rumoured i7 980 (non extreme) coming Q4...

[Splave]

wonder if there will be epic a0 ES 970s

[Peakr]

My encoding rig is dying for this processor. But for that price it will have to wait. Wonder if this pricing scheme is designed to unload some EE's?

[Mungri]

I thought it would have been like half of its launch price.