[Computex 2010]Thermalright new heatsinks

[Mats]

dont confuse efficient with horribly expensive. i remember the heatsink swiftech made that was a bunch of aluminum pins scattered in pattern that made it look "fluffy".

I'm not confused, I know exactly what I'm talking about. Why do you bring up a completely different HS from a different brand? Confused?
The Spitfire may be oversized and overpriced, but you still need water cooling to get lower temps.
You don't seem to know what I'm talking about, look here and here.
Only 47° C with an overclocked 5870, one fan, 900 RPM, that's impressive.

this one with each tower having to be put together must take alot more time and effort than just a big tower with twice the surface area

Obviously you still don't get the point why "just a big tower" isn't the best design here. You get a large cooling area, but it also slows down the air flow a lot.
The spacing between the arrays of fins in the Spitfire makes the air pass both through and between the arrays, while each array have enough surface area for one heatpipe.
I think this is the biggest reason why no GPU cooler with one big heatsink can't beat the Spitfire, even with the same fan.

[haylui]

is the motherboard able to take it?

[Mats]

is the motherboard able to take it?

Yes!

[Manicdan]

I'm not confused, I know exactly what I'm talking about. Why do you bring up a completely different HS from a different brand? Confused?
The Spitfire may be oversized and overpriced, but you still need water cooling to get lower temps.
You don't seem to know what I'm talking about, look here and here.
Only 47° C with an overclocked 5870, one fan, 900 RPM, that's impressive.

you proved my point exactly, the spitfire is one very big flat heatsink and does great. having a bunch of mini towers will not help airflow relative to keeping them connected, you only gain a little extra surface area while taking up a very large volume needed to fit it.

i think the best thing is to is use 2 flat one in the shape of an L, with it facing both the top and the back, so the fans in those locations can pull away the heat in both directions.

Obviously you still don't get the point why "just a big tower" isn't the best design here. You get a large cooling area, but it also slows down the air flow a lot.
The spacing between the arrays of fins in the Spitfire makes the air pass both through and between the arrays, while each array have enough surface area for one heatpipe.
I think this is the biggest reason why no GPU cooler with one big heatsink can't beat the Spitfire, even with the same fan.

the point about bigger is cost. you can get much more material for the cost of this, and i bet this heatsink isnt even optimal for how much material is used. i never said it would perform better with twice the material, so dont assume that

[amdsempron_xs]

I don't care about the shape, just how about the performance?

[Mats]

you proved my point exactly, the spitfire is one very big flat heatsink and does great.

No it's six small towers with a spacing of 6 mm, put together with a thicker fin in each end.
Stop making things up!

[lowfat]

I'm more interested in the giant 'orb'-like cooler. Look at the size and depth of that radial fan! Certainly an intereting take on the cylindrical heatsink concept.

It is monstrously huge. I would also like to see how it does.

[Manicdan]

No it's six small towers with a spacing of 6 mm, put together with a thicker fin in each end.
Stop making things up!

its wide, tall and flat, which is not like the one seen at computex, how hard is it to understand that concept?

[saaya]

uhmmmm that first one is a joke right? 0_o

[Mats]

its wide, tall and flat, which is not like the one seen at computex, how hard is it to understand that concept?

I understand it, but have a hard time trying to explain to you that its design is quite unique. I haven't given up on you yet, tho!
Look here, it got six arrays put together. The OP's pic shows a HS with 20 of these instead of 6, but the design of one of those is pretty much identical for both.
Another picture



That prototype in the OP's first pic will probably get its parts aligned and mounted with a thicker fin in a similar way like the Spitfire,
probably with the choice of mounting fans like in dual tower heatsinks, like IFX-14, D14 etc.

[HelixPC]

What has happened to Thermalright :/, did the lead designer of Thermaltake heatsinks get a job at Thermalright?!?!

[patrock84]

The cyclone was already shown last computex

[Manicdan]

I understand it, but have a hard time trying to explain to you that its design is quite unique. I haven't given up on you yet, tho!
Look here, it got six arrays put together. The OP's pic shows a HS with 20 of these instead of 6, but the design of one of those is pretty much identical for both.

That prototype in the OP's first pic will probably get its parts aligned and mounted with a thicker fin in a similar way like the Spitfire,
probably with the choice of mounting fans like in dual tower heatsinks, like IFX-14, D14 etc.

the reason why the spitfire does so well is the massive airflow available for the massive heatsink size. if someone attached a TRUE to their GPU it would do damn well too. the spitfire is nice, and does work, but it takes up space that gpus were never suppose to occupy. cpu heatsinks like the gemini 2 (i think thats the one, where it fits 2x 120mm fans and covers your ram aswell) fits into the same bucket as, bigger than its suppose to be, but also works well under silence (though still not very well)

the ONLY way i could like the design of the random skyscraper heatsink is if the heatpipes were flexible enough that you could arrange them how you want (i doubt this is the case though, you can bend them a little im sure, but im talking about 1-2" movements)

[Mats]

What has happened to Thermalright :/, did the lead designer of Thermaltake heatsinks get a job at Thermalright?!?!

What Thermaltake HS makes you think so? I have no idea what TT have done lately, so you might as well tell me.

People seem to get very confused by that first HS, but TR usually shows some prototypes, and this one is obviously far from finsihed.

[Baron_Davis]

These new heatsinks look awesome. I'm sure they will perform really well, it's funny to see ppl compare them to Thermaltake. Maybe you should get your eyes checked.

[Mats]

the reason why the spitfire does so well is the massive airflow available for the massive heatsink size.

It works well without a fan too. And even though it does have a large surface area, it doesn't look bigger than any other oversized GPU HS I've seen, like the MK-13, but it still performs better.

the ONLY way i could like the design of the random skyscraper heatsink is if the heatpipes were flexible enough that you could arrange them how you want (i doubt this is the case though, you can bend them a little im sure, but im talking about 1-2" movements)

I'm quite sure that when/if they will launch it, it will look different, more like an IFX-14.

[bamtan2]

the gpu in that picture probably dissipates 2x more energy than that cpu. but the cpu gets 4x more metal.

[lkiller123]

I bet you five bucks that they will get this aligned for the final release. They put it in this shape just for the show and tell.

[insurgent]

First HS makes me think of Macross and SDF-1, that grew limbs.

[prava]

the gpu in that picture probably dissipates 2x more energy than that cpu. but the cpu gets 4x more metal.

Because the area in which the cpu dissipates is a looooooooot smaller than the gpu and thus you need bigger dissipation area. Just think about it: a GTX480 takes around 250-300W...but its chip measures ~500mm2 and you have VRM and plenty of other parts that need to be dissipated. Instead, an i7 920 measures around 270mm2...its normal that the cpu requires quite more dissipation area, as it outputs 2-3x the heat a GPU does per mm2.

[Necetra]

The only thing I can conjure up is, "What the freaking hell?"

[Mats]

Because the area in which the cpu dissipates is a looooooooot smaller than the gpu and thus you need bigger dissipation area. Just think about it: a GTX480 takes around 250-300W...but its chip measures ~500mm2 and you have VRM and plenty of other parts that need to be dissipated. Instead, an i7 920 measures around 270mm2...its normal that the cpu requires quite more dissipation area, as it outputs 2-3x the heat a GPU does per mm2.

The i7 920 has the lowest power dissipation per area out of these three. I agree that the cards use power for RAM as well tho.

In that first board:
ATI 5870 (195 W, 334 mm2) 0.584 W/mm2
Intel 1366 CPU (>98 W, 263 mm2) 0.373 W/mm2

GTX 480 (298 W, 529 mm2) 0.563 W/mm2

[saaya]

What has happened to Thermalright :/, did the lead designer of Thermaltake heatsinks get a job at Thermalright?!?!

there were rumors in 2008 that their lead engineer left... after that all they did was new versions of TRUE, and then stuff like... this...

its still better than thermaltake, i think, but... its not like the old thermalright stuff for sure...

i hope that cyclone thing will work tho, that might be really powerful if done right... noisy as hell, but powerful!

[Humminn55]

What Thermaltake HS makes you think so? I have no idea what TT have done lately, so you might as well tell me.

People seem to get very confused by that first HS, but TR usually shows some prototypes, and this one is obviously far from finsihed.

You really don't know about Tt's SpinQ heatsinks? It's not like they're new or anything.......



http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Produc...C=1148&ID=1904





http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Produc...C=1148&ID=1831

[Starscream]

Some of them look more like bad modern art