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    Those values are TCase Max, that had a totally different meaning (Though never understanded good enough what it is precisely used for). My old A64 3000+ Venice DH-E6 had a TCase Max of 53°C yet due to heavy dust and issues with my silicon grease (After the first time that I cleaned it and removed the Thermal Pad) it run many times at temperatures as high as 80°C Full Load, measured with Core Temp. The maximum temperature is that when isn't stable anymore or Thermal Throttling kicks in, that should kick in before the Processors get damaged.

    I also recall 8 or 9 years ago that my K6-II 500 MHz on a PC Chips Motherboard was totally unstable, that besides being overclocked to 550 MHz in the very own computer shop that I purchased it at (I purchased a 550 MHz, not 500) it has a joke of a Heatsink and never remember that thermal grease was been applied to it (Wasn't a common practice at that time), also happened to my cousin on another shop when he purchased his. Results? Everytime that it crashed, I rebooted it, enter the BIOS, then saw the Processor temperature sensor at 100°C. "Must be a joke". Touched the Heatsink, and it hurted. Then I remember from a even previous, similar experience, with an unstable Pentium 233 MHz MMX that sometimes rebooted itself until I noticed that when the BIOS started in safe mode factory settings, it booted at 120 MHz and was fully stable at that, so I decided to underclock it to 166 MHz from BIOS and never had an issue anymore (Until I upgraded it to my K6-II). So I underclocked/undervolted it to 400 MHz @ 2.0V against 500 MHz @ 2.2V. Temperatures didn't rise above 80°C or so with that joke of an Heatsink, but the machine was finally FULLY stable. A year or so later I replaced the Heatsink with one that my first Athlon XP Palomino had (That fitted both Socket 7 and A), and was ridiculous cold (Less than 40°C).
    What I learned from these two computers is that temperature is severely overrated when most people worries when it runs at 60°C and issues usually appears at much higher than that. Exceptions include overclocking though, because at higher temperatures the silicon is less conductive so you have less potential to scale on Frequencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zir_blazer View Post
    Those values are TCase Max, that had a totally different meaning (Though never understanded good enough what it is precisely used for).
    Tcase is the temp at the center of the metal lid on the CPU. One of its main uses is for heatsink makers, in one of amd tech docs they show how its done, they drill a hole near the bottom of the heatsink to the center and insert a temp probe, then use a mathematical formula to figure out what the Tcase of the CPU actually is. Under testing with an ambient temp of 41C the heatsink should be able to keep the CPU at or below the Tcase max rating.

    As far as reading the CPU temp on current AMD chips goes... I emailed AMD about that and was told to monitor the single CPU temp reading and not the core temps.

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    Using the stock cooler that came with the 1090T the CPU temp as reported by Asus Probe never budges from 48C @ 100% load 3.2Ghz even at today's 35 C temp. Does not matter if 20 C or 35 C only fan speed changes. Today's fan speed was 4700 rpm.
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