"8800GT effect" not with GTX 460, but with GTX 465

[rogueagent6]

The 5850 is only a few dollars cheaper than the 470 here in the states. What are you talking about?

On average the 5850 is $60 dollars cheaper than the 470, I'd call that more than a few.

[highoctane]

On average the 5850 is $60 dollars cheaper than the 470, I'd call that more than a few.

Not sure where you're looking for avg prices but the cheapest 5850 stock at NE is $310 and the 470 is $350.

[rogueagent6]

Not sure where you're looking for avg prices but the cheapest 5850 stock at NE is $310 and the 470 is $350.

Your point?

I'm not willing to pay that much more for ONLY a 3% performance increase. I'll take the the 5850, overclock it, and keep the $40. That's not including what you'd save on your electricity bill to power and cool the 470.

[highoctane]

Your point?

I'm not willing to pay that much more for ONLY a 3% performance increase. I'll take the the 5850, overclock it, and keep the $40. That's not including what you'd save on your electricity bill to power and cool the 470.

Its irrelevant to me what hardware you spend your money on nor what you may or may not save on your electric bill I was merely pointing out that your self proclaimed avg price difference was incorrect.

[Manicdan]

Its irrelevant to me what hardware you spend your money on nor what you may or may not save on your electric bill I was merely pointing out that your self proclaimed avg price difference was incorrect.

average does not mean minimum, saphire had a 5850 for 290$ and another for 310$, the only thing the 310$ one came with was a free game.

[highoctane]

average does not mean minimum, saphire had a 5850 for 290$ and another for 310$, the only thing the 310$ one came with was a free game.

If I wanted to quote minimum mwave had the 470 for $330 when I replied earlier but I was simply quoting what was stock at NE at the time...

[rogueagent6]

Its irrelevant to me what hardware you spend your money on nor what you may or may not save on your electric bill I was merely pointing out that your self proclaimed avg price difference was incorrect.

Incorrect in your mind maybe, newegg and pricewatch both show an average of $60 more for the 470 for the brands I would buy.

Nice try though...

[ElSel10]

Your point?

I'm not willing to pay that much more for ONLY a 3% performance increase. I'll take the the 5850, overclock it, and keep the $40. That's not including what you'd save on your electricity bill to power and cool the 470.

Aside from the fact that you are overlooking the fact that the GTX470 is a very good overclocker, you show Nvidia! Teach those meanies a lesson and buy that 5850!

Also, for future reference please don't try and suggest that the cost difference in energy of running a 5850 vs. a GTX470 would be anything more than a drop in the ocean for anybody that can afford a 470 or 5850 and the corresponding hardware to utilize them fully.

[rogueagent6]

Aside from the fact that you are overlooking the fact that the GTX470 is a very good overclocker, you show Nvidia! Teach those meanies a lesson and buy that 5850!

And the 5850 isn't a good clocker?

Also, for future reference please don't try and suggest that the cost difference in energy of running a 5850 vs. a GTX470 would be anything more than a drop in the ocean for anybody that can afford a 470 or 5850 and the corresponding hardware to utilize them.

Are you going to pay my power bill for me? Thought not. When one card offers no tangible increase in performance over what I currently have, and uses more power, plus was 7 months late to market, why should I buy it?

[Luka_Aveiro]

And the 5850 isn't a good clocker?



Are you going to pay my power bill for me? Thought not. When one card offers no tangible increase in performance over what I currently have, and uses more power, plus was 7 months late to market, why should I buy it?

This.

If you have a 5850, keep it. If you are buying something new, get the GTX470, if the price difference is low.

At least that's what I would do if I was Jesus.

Here in Portugal, cheapest HD5850 is 240€, cheapest GTX470 is 330€, so a 90€ difference is quite too much to choose the 470.

[cegras]

This.

If you have a 5850, keep it. If you are buying something new, get the GTX470, if the price difference is low.

At least that's what I would do if I was Jesus.

Here in Portugal, cheapest HD5850 is 240€, cheapest GTX470 is 330€, so a 90€ difference is quite too much to choose the 470.

That's a big if.

[saaya]

At least that's what I would do if I was Jesus.

i like your humor

by cutting the die and pad size they should be able to do 1/3 the shaders with half the power as tsmc 40nm needs alot of extra power as u make the die bigger (its not linear.)

i think you mean 2/3?

and a dual 465 card... how?
if the single 465 has a tdp almost identical with that of the 470 but is around 33% slower... that doesnt make any sense... then they could just make a dual 470... same power but 33% more performance...

[570091D]

And the 5850 isn't a good clocker?

oh the 5850 overclocks, but it doesn't scale as well as the gf100 cards. the gtx470 and gtx480 respond really well to a boost in mhz, cypress must be held back by something else.

overclock.net member did some home benching

if you don't like the power consumption of the gf100 cards, that's fine don't buy one, but there is no need to constantly remind people who don't care which card is less thirsty. it's like saying "my corvette is better than your viper because it gets better gas milage"