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Here it says that the model that will be announced on June 1, Computex is not GTX 460 but it's GTX 465, and it's the model that Nvidia wants to create the "8800GT Effect" on.
The specs of the card are:
* 256bit memory bus
* 1GB DDR5 RAM
* 384 CUDA Cores
* 607MHz Core Clock
* 3206MHz Memory Clock
* 211W TDP
* $259-$299 MSRP.
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Looks like it will have performance between 5830 and 5850.
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What's The "8800GT Effect"?
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Close to a high-end performance for a mainstream price.
lol
Anyways the only way this is gonna happen is with a die shrunk and faster raw speed not to mention good enough shader count.
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lol performance between 5850-5830, ... it's not high performance for a low price ...
They're not going to do it. Nobody need crystal ball to say that.
all ATI has to do is drop prices 15%-20% across the line and nVidia will be done for...im wandering why theres been no "real" price drops in the 5xxx line ever since introduced
...are the 5xxx selling really that good...
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Prices are way to high for '8800GT effect'.
211W TDP. Auch. HD5850 only has 151W...
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I bought an 8800GT when it released, $310 and if you compare its performance to be somewhere now, it would be about where this post is saying. Not backing Nvidia here as they have been quite annoying lately, but it seems people are being negative, just to be negative, which is just about as annoying. Not entirely directed at you, by the way.
Now i do agree this wont have an "8800gt effect" but not for the negative reasons most spout out. The reason this is nearly impossible is because ATI has a competing line of cards, and a competing line of
cards than can easily also compete in price, when the 8800GT released, ATI had nothing to combat it with, if they tried to lower prices more than they did then, (which still wasnt enough to compete with the given performance for price compared to 8800GT) they wouldnt be here today.
Last edited by Decami; 05-04-2010 at 12:53 AM.
This post above was delayed 90 times by Nvidia. Cause that's their thing, thats what they do.
This Announcement of the delayed post above has been brought to you by Nvidia Inc.
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GTX 465 -> GTX 565 -> GTX 665(6?)
seems like nvidia is trying to fill atis gaps but this card looks like another 5830 to me lol
They obviously have a different idea of what "8800GT effect" means. Not sure how a dual-slot, 211w junkyard part for $300 compares to the slightly-slower-than-flagship single slot 8800GT.
How $259-$299 is bad price ?
HD5850 cost over $300 at newegg, and HD5830 cost around $250
So, the price is in the right position
GTX 465 has same clock/sader/memory speed as GTX470. So, the difference between GTX 465 and 470 is much smaller than difference between GTX 470 and 480
exactly... the 460 or 465 or whatever they end up calling it has as much in common with an 8800gt or G92 as a tomatoe and a toe nail...
a card delivering the same performance at the same cost that weve had for almost a year at a higher tdp... how THAT is supposed to wow customers... i have no idea...
unless they allow unlocking the gpus into 470s or 480s, and the success rate is actually at least 50%, i dont see this taking off... sure, its a great 5850 replacement for people who dont want an ati card or DO want an nvidia card... but thats not going to make it a popular product...
and whether they call it 460 or 465... who cares?
either way itll be a recycled gf100...
I think it will be much closer to HD5850 than HD5830
GTX 470 already beats HD5850 overall. And GTX 465 doesn't look much slower than 470 on paper. It only has slightly smaller bus size, and slight less stream processors.
I would say it will be about ~ %15-%20 slower than 470
Last edited by dartaz; 05-04-2010 at 08:04 AM.
Nvidia's desperation gets more and more sad with every day.
You'd think they'd have the dignity to just lay low and get to making something worthwhile.
wtf are you talking about?Nvidia's desperation gets more and more sad with every day.
You'd think they'd have the dignity to just lay low and get to making something worthwhile.
So Nvidia shouldn't make a cropped version of the GF100 chip?
since when making mainstream cards "desperation"?
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Exactly. Both the 8800 GT and the HD 3870 were kings because of low TDP. Yeah both were hot with reference cooling, but Accelero S1 made beast of them. Accelero was able to handle 8800 GTS 512 MB, but since than the cards have much smaller VRM's. You won't be able to cool it.
I see no chance of this card being another 8800 GT. Maybe in terms of low amount of cards in shops. Yeah it could help in pushing prices down, but as long as AMD has huge space where the prices can go, NVIDIA won't sell much of these cards even if they were as powerfull as HD 5850.
I think we should start a new "Fermi part <InsertNumberHere>" thread each time it's delayed in this fashion!Heck, I think we should start a whole new forum dedicated to hardware delays.
No it's not a bad price relative to ATi's parts. But it's no 8800GT.
Of course GTX 470 beats HD5850, it's like half more expensive lol. It HAS to be faster. Besides, it's not even in the same range.
HD5830 -> GTX 460/465 ?
HD5850 -> GTX 460/465 ?
HD5870 -> GTX 470
HD5970 -> GTX 480
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8800 GT's effect with a 210 W TDP card and a 259-299$ MSRP ???
They're quite dreaming on this one. Hope 5850's price go down though ...
The 5850 is only a few dollars cheaper than the 470 here in the states. What are you talking about?
Here you can find a good 5850 for 249 euros, but you cant find a GTX470 under 330 euros
The 5850 is only a few dollars cheaper than the 470 here in the states. What are you talking about?
But what about the HD 5830?
Not in Czech Republic, there's almost a 30% difference in price.
The 5850 is only a few dollars cheaper than the 470 here in the states. What are you talking about?
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