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    That's not always a bad thing, lower VID sometimes equals higher heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGuru View Post
    That's not always a bad thing, lower VID sometimes equals higher heat.
    this one does run really cool though 67c loaded @ 1.44
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    gskillllin it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by b1tphr34k View Post
    Thanks! so I decided to go ahead and try again - this time I made it a point to back off the memory and only push the CPU.
    So far Prime95 table...but definatley appreciate any insight that might tighten things up a bit. Basically, I started with ET6 to 4.05, added PCI=100MHz, upped CPU V1.34, backed off DRAM to standard (2.66D) @ 1200MHz and left everything else auto. I'm not so sure she should be cooking at 72-73 only 10 minutes, but open to suggestion after reading through much of this it seems the MCH and VTT are where a lot of the sweet spots lie? but I'm not sure what I should look for there.
    Thanks for your help!

    Your PLL and VTT are off the charts. Set PLL to 1.50 and set VTT manually, about 1.32 just inch your way up. Usually it stays just below vcore.

    Quote Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3 View Post
    this one does run really cool though 67c loaded @ 1.44


    JorB3's ram is awesome
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    Thanks for all the help!! Things are getting better...

    I'm still working on tunning things up a bit, but I thought I'd share progress and see if anyone could offer additional ideas that might help stabalize.
    The system runs great, but still BSOD/Reboot under Prime95 within 10 minutes. Temps have cooled off several degrees C, and I gained an additional 100Pts in Passmark score by boosting my RAM just need to stabalize it under load and things will be great.


    Here's the BIOS code I'm running
    Code:
    GIGABYTE GA-EP45T_USB3P
    [u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: AUTO
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:0.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.05GHz GHz
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] []
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:450Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100Mhz
    C.I.A. 2.............................:[Disabled]
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................:800 mv
    PCI Express Clock Drive...................: 900mv
    CPU Clock Skew (ps).......................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps).......................: 0ps
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance....................: [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........: Auto
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch.................: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............:3.33D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1500Mhz
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] []
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time...............................: 8
    tRCD ..........................................: 8
    tRP...........................................:  8
    tRAS...........................................:  24
    
    Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
    tRRD...........................................:AUTO
    tWTR...........................................: AUTO
    tWR............................................: AUTO
    tRFC...........................................: AUTO
    tRTP...........................................: AUTO
    Command Rate (CMD) ............................: AUTO
    Channel A
    
    Channel A Timings Settings [Press Enter] 
    Static tRead Value......................:Auto
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control................:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control................:Auto  ps
    
    Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter] 
    Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO]
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
    
    Data Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
    Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
    Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
    
    Channel B
    
    Channel B Timings Settings [Press Enter] 
    Static tRead Value......................:Auto
     tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control................:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control................:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter] 
    Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO]
    
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
    
    Data Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
    Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
    Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
    
    
    {U]Motherboard Voltage Control{/U]
    CPU Vcore….………...........................:1.32500v
    CPU Termination…...... 1.200V*...........: 1.3000v
    CPU PLL………………….........1.500V*...........: 1.5000v
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core……………..........1.100V............: AUTO
    MCH Reference..…...….….0.800V............; AUTO
    ICH I/O…………....……......1.550V............: AUTO
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……........1.500V............: 1.6v
    DRAM Termination ...…..0.900V............: AUTO
    Channel A Data Vref ...0.75V.............: AUTO
    Channel B Data Vref ...0.750V............: AUTO
    Channel A Address Vref 0.75V.............: AUTO
    Channel B Address Vref 0.750V............: AUTO
    
    [b]{U]Advanced Settings[b]{U]
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
    Note: * refers to 45nm CPU
    Here is a shot under load
    Intel Q9650@4.05GHz
    Corsair-H50 Cooler
    Gigabyte EP45T-USB3P
    KHK DDR3|1600 CL8 - Viper 2400 coming soon?
    AMD RAEDEON HD 6900
    Striped SSD 128G
    CMStorm Scout


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    Quote Originally Posted by b1tphr34k View Post
    I'm still working on tunning things up a bit, but I thought I'd share progress and see if anyone could offer additional ideas that might help stabalize.
    The system runs great, but still BSOD/Reboot under Prime95 within 10 minutes. Temps have cooled off several degrees C, and I gained an additional 100Pts in Passmark score by boosting my RAM just need to stabalize it under load and things will be great.


    Here's the BIOS code I'm running
    Code:
    GIGABYTE GA-EP45T_USB3P
    [u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: AUTO
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:0.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.05GHz GHz
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] []
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:450Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100Mhz
    C.I.A. 2.............................:[Disabled]
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................:800 mv
    PCI Express Clock Drive...................: 900mv
    CPU Clock Skew (ps).......................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps).......................: 0ps
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance....................: [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........: Auto
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch.................: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............:3.33D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1500Mhz
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] []
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time...............................: 8
    tRCD ..........................................: 8
    tRP...........................................:  8
    tRAS...........................................:  24
    
    Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
    tRRD...........................................:AUTO
    tWTR...........................................: AUTO
    tWR............................................: AUTO
    tRFC...........................................: AUTO
    tRTP...........................................: AUTO
    Command Rate (CMD) ............................: AUTO
    Channel A
    
    Channel A Timings Settings [Press Enter] 
    Static tRead Value......................:Auto
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control................:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control................:Auto  ps
    
    Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter] 
    Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO]
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
    
    Data Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
    Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
    Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
    
    Channel B
    
    Channel B Timings Settings [Press Enter] 
    Static tRead Value......................:Auto
     tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control................:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control................:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter] 
    Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO]
    
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
    
    Data Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
    Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
    Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
    
    
    {U]Motherboard Voltage Control{/U]
    CPU Vcore….………...........................:1.32500v
    CPU Termination…...... 1.200V*...........: 1.3000v
    CPU PLL………………….........1.500V*...........: 1.5000v
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core……………..........1.100V............: AUTO
    MCH Reference..…...….….0.800V............; AUTO
    ICH I/O…………....……......1.550V............: AUTO
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……........1.500V............: 1.6v
    DRAM Termination ...…..0.900V............: AUTO
    Channel A Data Vref ...0.75V.............: AUTO
    Channel B Data Vref ...0.750V............: AUTO
    Channel A Address Vref 0.75V.............: AUTO
    Channel B Address Vref 0.750V............: AUTO
    
    [b]{U]Advanced Settings[b]{U]
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
    Note: * refers to 45nm CPU
    Here is a shot under load

    First turn off cpu thermal protection, then enable vdrop correction, because to me it looks like its not turned on, since you have 1.325 Vcore set and you are seeing 1.23 at cpuz.

    Next set your vtt to 1.2 and then set your cpu ref to 0.785 and the mch ref to 0.800, and then go back and set vtt to desired voltage i.e. 1.30 as you have selected.

    Give that a try now
    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    gskillllin it!

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    Done and Done - you guys rock!

    Took sil3nc3's advice and made the necessary adjustments. didn't want to take a chance on lowering my RAM settings just yet - I actually want to get that all the way to 1600MHz at some point.

    I'm running Prime as we speak and getting much better results - OH - I regreased by cooler as well (used cheap thermal grease last time, and found my bottle of Zahlman's ceramic) makes a difference for sure.

    I'm 5-7 C cooler, OH and I lowered the VCore, with the droop I noticed it was actually running 4GHz loaded using as little as 1.248 CPUZ, even though I had set it to 1.34BIOSv (so I lowered it to 1.275BIOSv with calibration (prevent droop) and its running Strong at 4GHz and 1.248vCPUZ

    Thanks all for your help! If anyone can recommend anything else I could try to fine tune it that would be great. I already tried lowering the voltage in small increments - 1.275 seems to be the lowest it will run...what about some of those other values - should I now try adjusting them higher or lower to gauge impact to performance, temps, etc?

    Thanks for all the help!
    Intel Q9650@4.05GHz
    Corsair-H50 Cooler
    Gigabyte EP45T-USB3P
    KHK DDR3|1600 CL8 - Viper 2400 coming soon?
    AMD RAEDEON HD 6900
    Striped SSD 128G
    CMStorm Scout


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    Yeap - the RAM sucks, or I suck, and since I'm not willing to face the reality that it is me, it must be the RAM, I just can't squeeze any more performance out of it...on the other hand, I finally confirmed I'm 24hr Prime stable and incrementally lowerd my Voltages to 1.2875, thermals are much better - never above 69c and generally average 60-64c. (loaded) and idle around 39c



    Code:
    GIGABYTE GA-EP45T_USB3P
    [u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: AUTO
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:0.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.05GHz GHz
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] []
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:450Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100Mhz
    C.I.A. 2.............................:[Disabled]
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................:800mv
    PCI Express Clock Drive...................:900mv
    CPU Clock Skew (ps).......................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps).......................: 0ps
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance....................: [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........: DISABLED
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch.................: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............:3.33D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1500Mhz
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] []
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time...............................: 8
    tRCD ..........................................: 8
    tRP...........................................:  8
    tRAS...........................................:  24
    
    Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
    tRRD...........................................:AUTO
    tWTR...........................................: AUTO
    tWR............................................: AUTO
    tRFC...........................................: AUTO
    tRTP...........................................: AUTO
    Command Rate (CMD) ............................: AUTO
    Channel A
    
    Channel A Timings Settings [Press Enter] 
    Static tRead Value......................:Auto
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control................:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control................:Auto  ps
    
    Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter] 
    Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO]
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
    
    Data Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
    Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
    Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
    
    Channel B
    
    Channel B Timings Settings [Press Enter] 
    Static tRead Value......................:Auto
     tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control................:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control................:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter] 
    Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO]
    
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
    
    Data Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
    Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
    Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
    
    
    {U]Motherboard Voltage Control{/U]
    CPU Vcore….………...........................:1.28750v
    CPU Termination…...... 1.200V*...........: 1.2000v
    CPU PLL………………….........1.500V*...........: 1.5000v
    CPU Reference............................: .760
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core……………..........1.100V............:1.32
    MCH Reference..…...….….0.800V............; .800
    ICH I/O…………....……......1.550V............: AUTO
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……........1.500V............:1.34
    DRAM Termination ...…..0.900V............: AUTO
    Channel A Data Vref ...0.75V.............: AUTO
    Channel B Data Vref ...0.750V............: AUTO
    Channel A Address Vref 0.75V.............: AUTO
    Channel B Address Vref 0.750V............: AUTO
    
    [b]{U]Advanced Settings[b]{U]
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [DISABLED]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
    Note: * refers to 45nm CPU
    Intel Q9650@4.05GHz
    Corsair-H50 Cooler
    Gigabyte EP45T-USB3P
    KHK DDR3|1600 CL8 - Viper 2400 coming soon?
    AMD RAEDEON HD 6900
    Striped SSD 128G
    CMStorm Scout


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