I would also like to see the older phenom II chips put in these new 890 boards and see if the same mem clocks for Thuban can apply on Deneb. With the results that i have seen with Thuban it would appear that AMD did some pretty good performance increases to the IMC for DDR3. People seem to be able to handle higher NB with less volts and in turn able to clock some nice DDR3 speeds close to 2000mhz with what appears to be relative ease. I would like to know if indeed Thuban is better memory wise or is it the new chipsets that are making for higher mem clocks.