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    Quote Originally Posted by charged3800z24 View Post
    Hey Wez, how's it going? I like your rig. You just gave me an idea...

    Hey man not bad, not bad. Other than 3dm06 giving me gray hair, things are good..

    Hehe, glad you saw something useful :P Just recently got the loop up and running again, switched some parts and slapped a block on the gpu while at it. Loving the silence
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    Wez,
    Yeah, I might build a base to my Skeleton case and mount my current RAD and another in it. Thanks for the picture

    hey everyone, I also saw a boost in Unigine Bench using 10.4 Preview Driver. This is only 4.1ghz CPU which shows on the min FPS, but the score is higher then my 4.3ghz run earlier.

    Edit: I am slow.. I posted the wrong image, well here is the compare then.. lol.



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    Quote Originally Posted by wez View Post

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    Where has this thread gone? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
    Where has this thread gone? :P
    Here lies the last of this thread and this last chapter was our victory lap.

    The question is not where it has gone. The question is, were will it go?

    You have proven yourselves. The SIX know their MASTERS and know how to find them.

    Prepare Thyselves.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
    First off... Sorry for the double post.



    I know Simon didn't ask for this, but I agree with you Zeus...
    There are a whole lot of options that can give wildly varying results on the Heaven Bench...

    I've never used it before, but like I said earlier, I've been playing with it since I got off of work.

    I came up with these Standard settings that everyone may want to use. I chose them to be as fair as possible for folks who might not have the best Video Cards/Monitors...
    (BTW: beta, now I see why your numbers looked so wierd 8xAA and 16x AF )

    Suggested Standard Settings:


    The other good thing about these settings is that it won't take too long to run (with decent gear) and it still looks 1/2 way decent.

    For folks that have 58xx (DX11) cards, feel free to change that option (I just don't have it )

    This is just a suggestion for a standard, I'm not trying to be bossy...

    Anyway, heres my result @ these settings:



    EDIT: I ran this bench with the sound off.
    hey just for the hell of it I ran at the settings you listed



    not bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by 64NOMIS View Post
    Here lies the last of this thread and this last chapter was our victory lap.

    The question is not where it has gone. The question is, were will it go?

    You have proven yourselves. The SIX know their MASTERS and know how to find them.

    Prepare Thyselves.


    Hmm, I got a chill.....I have a crazy idea, yet I am confused and yet excited.

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    64nomis

    sorry it took so long to get the MSI up and running. i have a few more test to post, well tomorrow. Can i still share them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by charged3800z24 View Post
    sorry it took so long to get the MSI up and running. i have a few more test to post, well tomorrow. Can i still share them?
    Yes! This is where we will prepare until the time has come for the next chapter.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan7171 View Post
    hey just for the hell of it I ran at the settings you listed



    not bad
    WOW Titan!, that 5970 really speading it's wings!

    I know those settings are really wimpy, but it runs fast even on my 4870 and we were looking for a standard....

    I didn't get my Crosshair IV today.
    I knew they wouldn't deliver on Saturday but I was really hoping it would be at the local FedEx right up the road and I could go pick it up...

    Oh Well, I'll have it on Monday!

    Grinder & Charged, glad you guys got your rigs up and running!!

    Charged very smooth fix on that MSI man!
    I'm not sure my GBT 890GX died the same death, but I think I'll look at it and see if that may be a option for me too. I doubt it, pretty sure the PWM section went out but it's worth a shot! It'd make a really nice board for my HTPC!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
    WOW Titan!, that 5970 really speading it's wings!

    I know those settings are really wimpy, but it runs fast even on my 4870 and we were looking for a standard....

    I didn't get my Crosshair IV today.
    I knew they wouldn't deliver on Saturday but I was really hoping it would be at the local FedEx right up the road and I could go pick it up...

    Oh Well, I'll have it on Monday!

    Grinder & Charged, glad you guys got your rigs up and running!!

    Charged very smooth fix on that MSI man!
    I'm not sure my GBT 890GX died the same death, but I think I'll look at it and see if that may be a option for me too. I doubt it, pretty sure the PWM section went out but it's worth a shot! It'd make a really nice board for my HTPC!
    yea its deadly fast

    I checked ZZF and the mobo is gone its not listed anymore? I guess it sold out?

    Hope you get it monday itd be nice to see how it runs with your current cpu plus you can practice on it so when you get an x6 youll know how to deal with it already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    There's no temps in the screenshots as all would be idle temps after i ran the benches.

    For getting the best result i prefer not to have any temp monitoring programs running in the background but if you specifically want to know temps i will rerun them all with a monitoring tool running Simon.
    Very clean, build & results, as always Zeus. But you really need a well placed thermal probe or two if you are going to be religious about your immaculate benchmarking.

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    Man... You guys with your wicked video cards...

    I tore my HTPC box apart tonight and took the 4850 out of it (no big deal, I never game on it anyway, and it still plays Blu-Rays just fine on the IGP).
    Xfired it with my 4870 on the main rig, and still can't even get close to you folks with the 58xx cards...

    No real tweaks yet, but heres a SS of my 4870/4850 Xfire:



    I'm not going to run with the big dogs on this bench, but it's still a decent improvement...
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    Thanks Simon.

    I could always put a probe in my reservoir and have either speedfan or hw monitor running to show the delta between water and cores. That will be of most interest i think.

    Oh and eh, just prepared myself, i will be gone for a midweek starting tomorrow but it seems i will be back exactly on time.

    Curious to see where this thread will go as you said.
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    OK, let's try to make things more interesting.

    Heaven benchmark at 4.1GHz, barely any increase in score over 4.0GHz btw, this time including hw monitor in the screenshot:



    Water and ambient temps before the start of the bench:



    Powerdraw at idle before the start of the bench:



    Water and ambient temps at the end of the bench:



    Powerdraw during the bench at the settings in the screenshot above:



    Hope this helps.
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    wow zeus! very good and informative test! i like the way you show the difference in water temps on idle and bench load as well as the powerdraw. your system is really sucking a lot of power, more than a half a killowatt i might consider implementing something like this on my system thanks for sharing
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    Thanks Ridney. More than half a kilowatt might look like a lot but i was running my cpu overclocked to 4.1GHz and both my 5870's to 1050 core.

    I have seen as high as 740watt, running furmark and Prime95 together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
    Man... You guys with your wicked video cards...

    I tore my HTPC box apart tonight and took the 4850 out of it (no big deal, I never game on it anyway, and it still plays Blu-Rays just fine on the IGP).
    Xfired it with my 4870 on the main rig, and still can't even get close to you folks with the 58xx cards...

    No real tweaks yet, but heres a SS of my 4870/4850 Xfire:

    I'm not going to run with the big dogs on this bench, but it's still a decent improvement...
    Hey Dave, I was thinking of the same thing, buying a used 4850/4870 on kijiji. But I think instead I may voltmod my 4850, and in the meantime order a new cpu block and a power supply to prepare for potential future crossfire setups. Maybe a nicer vid card if I can talk the wife into that as well

    What tool are you guys using to oc a 4850 past 700? I tried ATItool but there's an issue with the unsigned driver on windows 7. I found a workaround that forces driver signatures (DSEO) but I don't like that it requires user account control to be disabled...
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    Oldtimer,
    since you also use the MSI 890 board. Did you find any tools that will run in windows that will OC the CPU etc. AOD and PhenomMSRTweaker will not work. They show they are, but nothing but voltage really works. I can tell by temps.
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    No I didn't, all the overclocking was done in the bios. I didn't look very hard to find any tools though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan7171 View Post
    hey just for the hell of it I ran at the settings you listed



    not bad
    I ran this benchmark completely stock (cpu 3.4ghz and NB 2ghz) heres the score compared to my overclocked (cpu 4ghz NB 2.8ghz) score above.

    Card was the same clocks on both runs (925/1200)

    Basically 600mhz on the cpu equals a 10 fps increase in minimum fps.......not bad if you were running 20fps this would bring you into the 30fps mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoldtimer View Post
    No I didn't, all the overclocking was done in the bios. I didn't look very hard to find any tools though.
    Did you even have AOD installed? I wonder if all are like this, here is a SS of AOD. Notice CPU-Z is correct, but AOD has some strangeness going on

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    Quote Originally Posted by charged3800z24 View Post
    Did you even have AOD installed? I wonder if all are like this, here is a SS of AOD. Notice CPU-Z is correct, but AOD has some strangeness going on

    For the IGP is does show the correct settings in AOD but it reads quite a few Mhz too high for the core on the right...thats normal.

    As for the CPU Multipliers/FSB those are for you to set, not actuall readings so thats why if you look at the top it shows correct numbers. Mine does that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
    As for the CPU Multipliers/FSB those are for you to set, not actuall readings so thats why if you look at the top it shows correct numbers. Mine does that too.
    Must be the 890 boards then, my 790FX works perfect in AOD for voltage and frequency etc. I had made all those changes in the bios. When I do this on my 790FX board, the Target reads the same as my current. Just thought it was weird.
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    Don't mean to double post, just wanted to share some test I did. Nothing as exciting as Oldtimer was doing, but here it is. I ran test in 3d06 to see the differences with memory allocation on the IGP. If you notice, there can be a 300 point gain from adding side port. Now I may need to run a no sideport with 128MB shared to see the speed difference in shared and sideport.

    Ok, I added a no sideport but with 128MB shared. It is below. I am now intrigued to run this with 1333 MEM just to see... probably would make a huge difference, but look at how much faster the 128MB shared is to the sideport only 128MB.

    First up is sideport only (128MB of course)



    (Added) no sideport only 128MB shared.



    Next was sideport plus 128MB shared.



    Next, sideport plus 256MB shared.



    Sideport plus 512MB, is identical as +256MB



    And now No sideport but with 512MB shared

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