DFI UT X58-T3EH8 continued - Part 2

[Mafio]

new beta 2010-03-22 lets see if pll voltage fixed...
edit:nope again pll volt still broken!cmon dfi thats so stupid 4 beta bioses you dont see it to fix it?please dont leave it broken to the final gulftown support non beta bios......

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[Praz]

new beta 2010-03-22 lets see if pll voltage fixed...
edit:nope again pll volt still broken!cmon dfi thats so stupid 4 beta bioses you dont see it to fix it?please dont leave it broken to the final gulftown support non beta bios......

The users I've heard from want the PLL voltage selection fixed to allow the setting of a lower value. The way it has been explained to me is the voltage will never be able to be set to a value lower then default. Only higher.

[Krautmaster]

does anybody know if A0 stepping Gulftowns are supported with the newer beta bioses?

Q3FE (2.4GHz XE A0)

thanks

[UNSTABLE_HERO]

yes some of us asked pll lower than 1.80(see you all bad people what you have done by asking for lower volts here???Take a broken pll voltage option in your face!want something else???), some others asked for skews to cpu and ram!SO forget all these and lets wish to see a good final "gulftown support" bios realise in this year!!!!

[p331083]

How are you guys flashing your BIOS? I use a bootable usb and when I try and flash it just ends up sitting at the flash screen saying input file name and nothing else. Ive tried many different versions and exactly the same thing every time, just sits and the screen and doesnt allow me to do anything.

[donmarkoni]

How are you guys flashing your BIOS? I use a bootable usb and when I try and flash it just ends up sitting at the flash screen saying input file name and nothing else. Ive tried many different versions and exactly the same thing every time, just sits and the screen and doesnt allow me to do anything.

Had that problem. Program trying to read BIOS file, but it can't. It wasn't so persistent in my case, gone with a reboot or USB stick change, I can't remember.

[p331083]

Now its giving me a internal stack overflow error, wtf?

[UNSTABLE_HERO]

after 22/3 bios we have the brand new 24/3 beta bios and guess what.....?pll still broken

[nickless]

Maybe broken pll is trademark of DFI

[Krautmaster]

hm new A0 ES working nearly fine now on DFI.



But i have the problem, that the DFI Bios sets Uncore to 2x DDR Clock. Gulftown should use 1,5x Mem Clock as Uncore Clock. With 1,3V Vtt i can'tget over 3200 Uncore... =/ so memclock will be 1600 max for me.

Perhaps next bios will fix up this uncore multi problem...

[Mafio]

this is really a good news

[Krautmaster]

yeah but the mem /uncore multi isn't correct. And it is only A0 stepping. Westmere EP and B0 sampels wont't work on DFI boards...

[UNSTABLE_HERO]

24/3 bios turned from beta to normal and pll still broken.... congratulations!shame for this mobo maker...

[Dopamin3]

I can confirm CPU PLL is still broke lol It's even a "stable" bios and moved out of beta section.

Anyway does anyone with this board have problems cold booting with high frequency RAM? Whenever I do a cold boot, only 4 GB of RAM is detected in the bios (and in Windows). I have to let it run for a while, power it down, then power it back on and all 6GB are detected.

I'm running the memory at 2000mhz 9-9-9-24-2T @ 1.62v in bios (1.60v real voltage) and the uncore @ 40000mhz. Once I have all 6 GB detected, the system is stable. It passes memtest86+, prime95 small fft/blend, etc... and I only need 1.34 VTT.

So does anyone know how to fix this? I looked in CPU socket for bent pins and they're fine. I reseated the memory multiple times with no luck. Also I have tried messing with some settings in the bios with no luck. I thought changing the bootup clock would help (I've tried setting 135 - 180) but it really doesn't do anything. I also have been upping the IOH voltage with no luck.

[donmarkoni]

Anyway does anyone with this board have problems cold booting with high frequency RAM? Whenever I do a cold boot, only 4 GB of RAM is detected in the bios (and in Windows). I have to let it run for a while, power it down, then power it back on and all 6GB are detected.

Your problem looks very persistent...
This is what I would do:
Leave your rig powered off over night to cool down. Take out your memory and heat it up to 40-50°C in the oven or in the sunlight. Put it back in your rig and power it on. You get the point? After that you will know if you memory needs to be warmed up to work properly.
If that doesn't help, do this:
After your rig has been working for a while and recognized all memory, swap it (mem) with borrowed ram from some friend (hope you have someone for it, as I don't, they all have ddr2 and ddr1 so I bought it). Or you can cool your memory in the freezer for couple of minutes, while your rig will remain warm. (Beware of condensation! It could kill your ram and board!)
If problem still occurs, then I really don't know
Maybe just the combination of HW you use.

[Ice009]

Hey guys,

Anyone have the settings I need to change to overclock my CPU to 3.8-4Ghz? Not looking to go any higher than 4Ghz max. I am not really great with overclocking so that is why I am asking. Thanks.

CPU : W3520
RAM : G Skill Trident C9 2000Mhz 6GB 1.6 volt kit.
Cooling : Prolimatech Megahalems with two 1850rpm Gentle Typhoon fans in push/pull configuration.

Bios on MB : 11/05.

[donmarkoni]

Hey guys,

Anyone have the settings I need to change to overclock my CPU to 3.8-4Ghz? Not looking to go any higher than 4Ghz max. I am not really great with overclocking so that is why I am asking. Thanks.

CPU : W3520
RAM : G Skill Trident C9 2000Mhz 6GB 1.6 volt kit.
Cooling : Prolimatech Megahalems with two 1850rpm Gentle Typhoon fans in push/pull configuration.

Bios on MB : 11/05.

Try this for 4GHz:

Genie BIOS Setting

CPU Feature
Set VR Current Limit Max: Enabled
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
EIST Function: Enabled or Disabled if unstable
CxE Function: Enabled or Disabled if unstable
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Virtualization Technology: Enabled

***** Logical Processor Setting *****
Intel HT Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All

DRAM Timing
Channel Interleave Setting: AUTO
Rank Interleave Setting: AUTO
Memory LowGap: 3072M

DRAM Command Rate: 1N
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 7 or 8 if unstable
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 7
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 20 or 21 if unstable
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Row Cycle Time (tRC): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): AUTO
Ch1 Round trip latency: AUTO
Ch2 Round trip latency: AUTO
Ch3 Round trip latency: AUTO
tREFI: AUTO

Voltage Setting
O.C. Shut Down Free: Disable O.C.S.D.F
CPU VID Control: 1.250v - 1.300v
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Enabled
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.650v could try 1.635 - 1.665v
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
DRAM PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add: AUTO
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.24v - 1.34v
VTT PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
VTT PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80v
IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage: 1.13v
IOH Analog Voltage: 1.10v
ICH 1.5 Voltage: 1.5v
ICH 1.05V Voltage: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
ADDR/CMD VREF Control: Disabled
x DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
CPU QPI Drive Strength: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength: Normal

Exit Setup Shut down: Mode 1
O.C. Fail Retry Counter: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled

PPM Function: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function: Disabled or Enabled for 4.2GHZ
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 20x

* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: 4.8GT/s
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 200 MHz
Boot Up CPU Base Clock: 185 MHz or 190 if unstable
PCIE Clock: 100 Mhz
DRAM Frequency: 8x (1600MHz)
UnCore Frequency:  16x (3200MHz) or 18x (3600MHz) for Higher Memory Bandwidth

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

As you see, you will have to play around with some settings a little.

[Krautmaster]

so any changes in the new Bios? =/

[UNSTABLE_HERO]

anyone tried to remove pwm heatsink?my pwm temps was around 65c but now after 4 months i notice that they hit 89c (21 ambient) and i also have a fan on pwm area!some people that tried to reapply paste ended with a burned mobo http://img5.imageshack.us/i/pwmfailure6.jpg/ whats wrong with it and its so dangerous to reapply tim?anyone who tried this?

[Mafio]

not a good idea to replace the thermal pad with thermal grease, the heatsink is done for use thermal pad between it and the mosfet.
if you use the thermal grease probably you need to tighten the screws more than what you do when you use the thermal pad.
i would buy another thermal pad to replace the stock one.

[Forin]

http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showpos...2&postcount=10

This is how i done it on DFI DK x58.

I think it's simpler on DFI UT x58.

[Factotum]

anyone tried to remove pwm heatsink

no reason for air.
My system:

[wesleys_dad]

That is 1 fine system u have there factotom..ive always wanted the ut x58 and ordred it from newegg...it was doa.nothing ,no lights ,no fans spinning up so i returned it after 3 days of playing with it..the ut not available anymore so i took the dk x58 and its a great board for what i use it for 3.8 with 1.14v and ram at 1700 and this thing flyes..
But i keep looking at the ut version as it became available a week or so again from newegg...i keep looking at it and wondering if i should get it but im so happy with my dk that it would be crazy to give it up..the ut is one of the coolest looking boards dfi ever put out, my opinion....Gosh i still want one though...a few beers one night and ill sneak over and order it while the wifes asleep..lol

[owikh84]

anyone tried to remove pwm heatsink?my pwm temps was around 65c but now after 4 months i notice that they hit 89c (21 ambient) and i also have a fan on pwm area!some people that tried to reapply paste ended with a burned mobo http://img5.imageshack.us/i/pwmfailure6.jpg/ whats wrong with it and its so dangerous to reapply tim?anyone who tried this?

It's not a good idea to alter the stock heatsink believe me I've burned the board before.

[Blacknach]

Hi, i have had error 8.8 and send boar to dfi, i´m not a xtreme overclocker, my 920 c0 was stable at 4011 with 1.36 ht off, and they say me this:
"i have attached a picture of the damage. An internal trace has been burned
thru. This can be visually seen in the picture as a bulge near the pin. From
an electronic standpoint my technician could not measure an electrical
signal passing thru the circuit using an oscilloscope. Basically the circuit
is severed. The only conceivable way this can happen is if too much power is
continually fed thru the circuit until it overheats and burns out."

I send other mail tell they that i didn´t do nothing xtreme and dfi said me:

"To be honest and direct the only thing that interests DFI is the condition in which the board arrived. The board was damaged when it arrived and that damage is a burned internal trace. This is a fact. If I was to allow for customers to offer "evidence" that they didn't cause the fault then everything would be in dispute all the time. The bottom line is that DFI must make a decision on these matters based on the facts at hand. These decisions are reached by myself and the repair technicians. I am aware that the person on the other end (you in this case) will not be happy if a decision is not in their favor. That all said, a decision has been made and it is binding. I don't expect you to be happy about it.

Perhaps as some small favor to give you a peace of mind I can tell you that I have been doing this for a long time and have mitigated 1000's of cases just like this. It is often so that in these cases a person doesn't mean to cause damage to a product, but they unknowingly cause damage anyways. That is what has likely happened here. I do believe you that you didn't recklessly overclock the product.

From DFI's standpoint it all comes down to one thing and that is the state in which we receive the product. It is the only thing that is relevant."

Now i go to buy another brand because DFI SAT sucks, be carefull with yours mobos, the warranty is for only boards than can be repaired, the other´s are f......