what a joke.. how can they even say that, "As with the original 65nm Phenoms, these new 6-core CPUs will hit around 230MHz on the HT clock before refusing to go any further"... wtf are they talking about? not even phenom I's had 230htt limit. someone should give them a lesson on amd overclocking and ask them where they got that ridiculous info. hopefully they are buying their own review samples because giving them one seems like a waste if they have no idea how to overclock it