[XS]Just got Phenom II x6 1055T (Retail)

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You're not going to get 50% throughput improvement from 2 extra cores from more than a fraction of real world applications either. And Nehalem is not just HT, it also has extremely powerful individual cores.

Yep extremely powerful individual cores is correct but HT is what is used to inflate bench scores and also used in some real heavy app's like video encoding.

But if you compare a OCed i5 750 to a i7 860 one can notice how well HT does. It does not behave like real cores the added performance varies a lot, in some case HT can boost pretty high numbers and in others the added performance is little or even negative.

Hold up guys, don't just call him stupid.

I have once owned an E8600 that had a very low Vid and was able to make 4.5GHz stable at a rediculous low voltage. On top of this, the chip was very intolerant to voltage and simply froze or bluescreened once give too much.

To me these are signs this chip was very low leakage, no?

Compared to other E8600 chips mine ran rediculously hot, at least 10ºC hotter than any other E8600 with even less cooling and more Vcore applied.

Although i do not have an explanation for it, it was something i experienced myself and i've seen more of this in the Wolfdale thread. I have not seen this behaviour with AMD chips (yet).

I think what applies to AMD chips does not always apply to Intel chips and vice versa.

That maybe a low leakage chip but low leakage does not mean it will be hot. Low leakage means better efficiency, suppose 1v is coming and your chip is rated for 1Ghz on 1v but you could do 1.5Ghz at 1v means that your chip has lower leakage and thus better utilization of voltage than what is required by normal chips.

It could be hotter because of some part of Intels manufacturing process or something but it does not compute from a normal point of view.

EDIT: Also high leakage chips are just that they need to dissipate what they take in. High voltage is dissipated from the chip it self and when this happens the environment within the chip gets hot.