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    Angry Sony Zaps PlayStation 3 'Install Other OS' Feature

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    Sony giveth and Sony taketh away: When the company's newest PlayStation 3 firmware update drops on April 1, it'll remove a beloved feature once trumpeted as a system sale-maker. That's right Linux wonks, it's time to kiss the PS3's "Install Other OS" option goodbye.

    Unlike Microsoft's Xbox 360 or Nintendo's Wii, the PS3 shipped with an option to run "other" operating systems, including popular Linux distributions from Debian, Fedora, OpenSUSE and Ubuntu. The "slim" model PS3 (CEH-2000) that appeared in September 2009 debuted without this feature, but Sony exempted older "fat" PS3s.

    Until next Thursday, that is. When Sony's PS3 firmware update 3.21 debuts on April 1, it'll disable the "Install Other OS" feature on millions of older systems. While you don't have to install the update, opting out will bar access to the PlayStation Network, newer games and Blu-ray movies, copyright-protected videos streamed from a media server, and any other new features in firmware version 3.21 forward.

    Sony's spin goes something like this: By removing the feature, the company says it "will help ensure that PS3 owners will continue to have access to the broad range of gaming and entertainment content from SCE and its content partners on a more secure system."

    Translation: You get something you already have ("access to [a] broad range of gaming" etc.) in trade for nothing, while Sony gets to close what it now deems a hacker loophole. What's good for Sony is good for you, in other words.

    Except when it's not (good for you, that is). Running Linux on the PS3 allows amateur developers to tinker with the PS3's Cell processor, Sony sanctioned, and cobble together home-baked utilities and games. It's also been used by researchers to build "discount supercomputers" to run scientific simulations that might otherwise "cost thousands of dollars." North Carolina State University professor Frank Mueller called it "$50,000 worth of computer power for a mere $5000."

    The majority reaction on Sony's PlayStation blog won't surprise anyone.

    "Wait...you are REMOVING a feature?" writes one user. "What's next? Removing BC from early PS3 adopters? Terrible update sony, teeeerrible," writes one user.

    "This is an idiotic idea," says another. "I paid for this feature. When the console was $500 I paid for this feature. And Yes, I use this feature."

    "Hey Sony, considering you are disabling half of my product (It was explicitly sold with labeling ON THE BOX that states it supports other OS installations) - Can I get half my money back?" asks a third, adding that the move is "like selling someone a table, and then breaking 2 of the legs off."

    Access to the system via Linux isn't carte blanche. Sony locks out its powerful Nvidia-developed RSX graphics processor by using a hypervisor--a "virtual machine monitor" that runs the guest operating system in a secure virtualized memory space.

    In January, a US hacker known for unlocking the Apple iPhone told the BBC he'd managed to crack the PS3, admitting his workaround would allow players to run pirated games as well as older PS2 software. It's not clear whether the January hack led to Sony's decision to scrap Linux support, but I'd say the timing's definitely suggestive.

    In case you're wondering, Sony says this isn't an April Fool's joke. Contrast with betters like "PS3 Leap-Year-Glitch Fix Resets Space-Time Continuum," or "Nude Kratos Toggle in God of War III Update."

    My condolences, PS3-Linux wonks. Niche user base or no, it's usually bad news when a company starts pulling features from its product portfolio.

    "It only does everything"? Time to re-think that ad campaign, Sony.
    Typical Sony move. They've always been big fans of closed proprietary standards...
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    it says april 1st, and every commercial ive seen by sony has been comedic, id bet april fools

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manicdan View Post
    it says april 1st, and every commercial ive seen by sony has been comedic, id bet april fools
    Way too early for April, 1st, though? Well, it's possible, I guess...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manicdan View Post
    it says april 1st, and every commercial ive seen by sony has been comedic, id bet april fools
    Nope no april fools joke, it's bitter sweet reality. Sony jsut tries to lock out pirates before they have the oportunity to pirate any games. Doesn't matter that they screw others over..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    Nope no april fools joke, it's bitter sweet reality. Sony jsut tries to lock out pirates before they have the oportunity to pirate any games. Doesn't matter that they screw others over..
    Then pirates will come nearer, that "Install Other OS" feature have just become a countermeasure now.
    I wonder what comes next, I mean what feature will compromised next and be discarded by Sony.
    They have to put geohot in jail.

    Looks like another cat n mouse scenario, and Linux support as the casualty.
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    We can only hope that it is an april fools joke, but i really really really doubt it
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    its an odd day to patch a feature that would cause alot of controversy.

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    Doesn't bother me in the slightest. Linux on the PS3 is minimal at best, cause Sony locks out the hardware and direct access to the G71, sorry, "RSX" anyway. It's a plaything for nerds, no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai Robinson View Post
    Doesn't bother me in the slightest. Linux on the PS3 is minimal at best, cause Sony locks out the hardware and direct access to the G71, sorry, "RSX" anyway. It's a plaything for nerds, no more.
    It's disappointing because there is a hypervisor exploit in the embryonic stage and I was looking forward to unrestricted homebrew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai Robinson View Post
    Doesn't bother me in the slightest. Linux on the PS3 is minimal at best, cause Sony locks out the hardware and direct access to the G71, sorry, "RSX" anyway. It's a plaything for nerds, no more.
    Prob because having a proper OS would betray the systems true performance. Now for another tarded comment how "omg CELL IS SOO POWRFLL!!!1" It was weak in 2006 and its weak now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai Robinson View Post
    Doesn't bother me in the slightest. Linux on the PS3 is minimal at best, cause Sony locks out the hardware and direct access to the G71, sorry, "RSX" anyway. It's a plaything for nerds, no more.
    it's actually a dieshrunk g70

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    The world has really woken up late to the news

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaidev View Post
    The world has really woken up late to the news

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    This is about the fat model not the slim that was known to have the feature removed.
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    Well it's folding performance and the fact that people keep building supercomputers out of PS3 clusters would suggest otherwise. Its INT performance leaves something to be desired and it is difficult to program for.
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    whats the big deal?
    1. im pretty sure very few ps3s were bought to run linux on them, and on each one that actually was, sony lost a lot of money...
    it was a retarded idea to begin with cause for consoles the hw is financed through the purchase of games... which linux users wont buy...
    2. the update isnt mandatory, and people who run linux on their ps3s now, most likely wont give a rats 4ss about the new features the latest or future firmware releases bring as they use linux anyways to watch and stream videos, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    whats the big deal?
    1. im pretty sure very few ps3s were bought to run linux on them, and on each one that actually was, sony lost a lot of money...
    it was a retarded idea to begin with cause for consoles the hw is financed through the purchase of games... which linux users wont buy...
    2. the update isnt mandatory, and people who run linux on their ps3s now, most likely wont give a rats 4ss about the new features the latest or future firmware releases bring as they use linux anyways to watch and stream videos, no?
    Without the update you can't sign into the PSN, meaning you can't play any online game and later on you won't be able to play offline games requiring the 3.21 patch. So to me, it seems it's a mandatory update unless you're ok with your PS3 being nothing more than a blu ray player.

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    there is a work around, not released yet but soon, - http://kotaku.com/5511707/hacker-cla...g-again-on-ps3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkeywoman View Post
    there is a work around, not released yet but soon, - http://kotaku.com/5511707/hacker-cla...g-again-on-ps3
    You could just use ps3.proxyserver.gui. Has been around for a while and works just great as a workaround.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Sz View Post
    Without the update you can't sign into the PSN, meaning you can't play any online game and later on you won't be able to play offline games requiring the 3.21 patch. So to me, it seems it's a mandatory update unless you're ok with your PS3 being nothing more than a blu ray player.
    who installs linux on a ps3 and then plays games using the playstation network?
    why would anybody do that?

    i agree that its stupid from sony to lock a function like that, but... i really dont see why anybody actually cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    who installs linux on a ps3 and then plays games using the playstation network?
    why would anybody do that?

    i agree that its stupid from sony to lock a function like that, but... i really dont see why anybody actually cares?
    i do, i have a an snes emu and some other homebru on linux, then marvel v capcom on psn


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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    i do, i have a an snes emu and some other homebru on linux, then marvel v capcom on psn


    if u are in the EU u can get a partial refund http://www.qj.net/qjnet/playstation-...s-removed.html
    Wow...... I don't know whether to feel good or bad about this. I guess a partial refund is better than nothing but I imagine there are gonna be some unhappy people either way. I'm interested to see where this story is gonna go.
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    Uh oh. Hitler is not going to like this news.

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