GTX 480 and GTX 470 Reviews

[N19h7m4r3]

280 RMA? all for of my 280 GTX's are still running today, the rmas that did happen and still happen is people not being anal about keeping temps down with air or water. Basically your novice user"not all the time but a majority of the time", having a poor air flow case and is like ok whatever 85-90c+ is ok to game on. Resulting in the gpu to cook and an rma down the road, I have a rule never let me gpus go over 70c under full load and to get my idle temps 37-45c. The die shrink was to make the 280 GTX more profitable with the 285/295 lines, the dye for the 280 was just way way too big for nvidia to keep producting them and keep a resonable profit without charging us an arm and a leg.

Do I see the 480 GTX getting an rma by the average to novice user not willing to use a quality case, quality fans, a good water setup to extreme cooling? Yes.. happens with each gen of new cards, I see cases like the cm 690, antec 900, and other small form factor cases not dealing with the heat so well and cooking cards unless whoever purchased the cases knows about air flow, removing heat and supplying the 480 GTX with cool air, or the entry level overclocker who has thier current video cards/video cards in thier cpu loop with only a 500w rad. This is where the rmas come from, yes there are defects there always is.... but my 3-4 years of watching the EVGA forums iv seen many people fry thier gpus due to those reasons I just wrote down.

Also what is up with the crying about heat and power? This is Xtreme Systems right or did I miss something? Power no big deal on a single card it has the gpu power to more than replace 2x 280/285's and some with less power usage, yeah a bit more heat well alot more go go George Forman 480 GTX! But thats part of the fun how far can you push this card on air, water, ln2, phase change, the list goes on, How can you keep the heat down.
I do agree the card's cost should had been 440-470 dollars with the one major problem that comes with it and that being the heat. But none the less its going to be something fun to tinker with regardless.



Sorry for the wall of txt just looking at it makes me tired=D

Wall of text crits for over 9000.

Sorry but I only read the first 4 paragraphs then skimped the rest.

Valid points about the average user indeed. Sadly they make up the majority of the market.

Also this being XS is all well and good. But Heat and Power IS a problem.

This isn't XS because we run cards at stock. We over clock, heat and power limit that.Therefor limiting our results and FPS.

No one, plays games or works with LN2 constantly being fed to a card, that's absurd. Specially thinking of costs.

I agree, the card costs to much, I really would have liked one. But I shall not buy it simply because of costs, that's not the issue. The issue is the underlying heat problems and power consumption.

The last thing I need is a electricity bill to slowly rise simply because I need the card to run at 90-100% daily.

I also cool my system with water, but with a hotter climate it becomes more troublesome and costs even more.

Therefor why spend the 400 euro on a card that could only further increase my costs.

Die shrink I shall wait for, or possibly the next generation.