GTX 480 and GTX 470 Reviews

[zanzabar]

I don't know why so much people hate Physix and CUDA... May be because ATI don't have anything of these. It's like saying that i7's are not honest because they have TURBO and HT. Now Amd will implement TURBO to.
May be Ati 6XXX series will have Physix. When you buy something you use all it's capabilities, not throw away Physix to the back door just because Ati don't have. Anyway the performance is far from being competitive...
Probably a 512SP GTX 480 would have been more distanced from 5870 and closer to the 5970. But clearly would not have meet the 250W TDP.

i dont think that any1 is really anti CUDA, the thing that people dont like is that we have 4 and now 6 core cpus and most the time 2 or more cores just sit there doing nothing. then the problem with phsyX is that NV keeps degrading the cpu drivers and getting devs to not optimize the cpu so those cores that arnt doing anything but have plenty of power to do the same effects are left idle. and for physX NV made it so u have to crack the drivers if u dont have an NV gpu for the primary display but they only did that when they had the slower gpu to try and hinder atis sales were instead they could have sold cards as PPU and advanced phsyX but instead its a marketing tool, phsyX is also not as good as havoc with the only users being sponsored by NV, so phsyX is giving worse performance and has hardware limitations.

@de|ph1 plz dont bench wow, its not optimized correctly and isnt it server dependent for the fps even when u try to bench it, GTA4 though would be nice as the expansions are out soon for the pc