The Fermi Thread - Part 3

**Olivon** · 03-26-2010, 01:34 PM

A poor french first review from 01net

Nothing important on dis' except prices and availability here in France :
470 349€ (~ same price than 5870 approx.)
480 479€
Mid-april

**Nightcover** · 03-26-2010, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by -Sweeper_

liveblog: http://blogs.nvidia.com/ntersect/201...-liveblog.html

30 minutes left!

thank you.

**eric66** · 03-26-2010, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by cegras

I might as well repeat myself: per watt, ATI's architecture is more efficient.

do you want candy or something ?

**dertimaushh** · 03-26-2010, 01:38 PM

Maybe there are some Power-Management features within the Fermi Core which did not work with the used drivers in the review.

If not - how could such an explosion in power consumption be passed on to the market. It's a complete mystery to me how a company in these days could release such a product.

I must go 6 months back and say: ATI well done

**cegras** · 03-26-2010, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by eric66

do you want candy or something ?

You'll be needing it!

**kaktus1907** · 03-26-2010, 01:41 PM

that is interesting.. doesnt match with Hexus review

**Manicdan** · 03-26-2010, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by dertimaushh

Maybe there are some Power-Management features within the Fermi Core which did not work with the used drivers in the review.

If not - how could such an explosion in power consumption be passed on to the market. It's a complete mystery to me how a company in these days could release such a product.

I must go 6 months back and say: ATI well done

id bet it has to do with the TSMC process giving them less than they wanted. so they have 2 options, either up the voltage and get a few more clocks to be the top contender, or keep the tdp lower and be equal to or maybe worse than 58xx cards. since they are building top dog cards, power consumption probably lost and they went with more perf, for a much higher power draw.

if people were planing on making a folding farm, they might see that undervolting would be the way to go for trying to get the most points per dollar, factoring cost of chips and electric bill. but gamers are much less affected.

**annihilat0r** · 03-26-2010, 01:46 PM

kaktus1907: I think that's the case Charlie mentioned: 5870 running under DX11 but 480 running under DX9. To make 480 run under DX11, you need to force it with a console command.

Also, GS will spank FB this sunday

**SimBy** · 03-26-2010, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by kaktus1907

that is interesting.. doesnt match with Hexus review

Performance at 1920x1200 2xAA to 4xAA goes UP?! Srsly? I would carefully examine IQ.

**Tim** · 03-26-2010, 01:48 PM

Whoa, those French benchmarks are very impressive for 480 if accurate lol.

**cowie** · 03-26-2010, 01:48 PM

[QUOTE=kaktus1907;4308411
that is interesting.. doesnt match with Hexus review[/QUOTE]

what makes you think that evry site uses the same benchmark?
the better reviews are from real game play not timedemos.

well its looks like we have a new price > performance champ...the gtx 470

on new drivers too!

**Nightcover** · 03-26-2010, 01:49 PM

12 minutes:
http://www.coveritlive.com/index.php...ode=47cad850de

**Chumbucket843** · 03-26-2010, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by cegras

I might as well repeat myself: per watt, ATI's architecture is more efficient.

you do realize that an architecture does not determine performance per watt because it is intangible? its more of a battle of process v. architecture. nvidia has a very impressive dx11 arch but it has had trouble on 40nm. nvidia's yields dont allow them to bin gtx480's at the tdp they would like. we could see a silicon spin like B1 or gf100 implemented well on 28nm and it will be an excellent competitor.

**96redformula** · 03-26-2010, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Chumbucket843

you do realize that an architecture does not determine performance per watt because it is intangible? its more of a battle of process v. architecture. nvidia has a very impressive dx11 arch but it has had trouble on 40nm. nvidia's yields dont allow them to bin gtx480's at the tdp they would like. we could see a silicon spin like B1 or gf100 implemented well on 28nm and it will be an excellent competitor.

Considering they are already on A3, chances of another revision before 28nm is probably unlikely....

**Olivon** · 03-26-2010, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by kaktus1907

that is interesting.. doesnt match with Hexus review

I will really not trust this benchmarks anyway ... Sounds too proper IMHO ...

**Nightcover** · 03-26-2010, 01:53 PM

The live blog is online now..

**pentium777** · 03-26-2010, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain

I just bought a Sapphire 5850 from Newegg for $279 shipped.

LOL @ you having a GTX 280 and buying a slightly better 5850 and we care about your ATI purchase why?

**570091D** · 03-26-2010, 01:54 PM

on live has started

**EnisDonKing** · 03-26-2010, 01:54 PM

Too bad they didn't provide some video link from the event. That would be interesting.

**Chumbucket843** · 03-26-2010, 01:55 PM

http://blogs.nvidia.com/ntersect/201...-liveblog.html
the doors are open.

No livestream guys but we will post some great video clips of this as soon as we can after the event

fail.

Originally Posted by 96redformula

Considering they are already on A3, chances of another revision before 28nm is probably unlikely....

yep, its just a matter of how soon they think they can get a 28nm gpu out.

**eric66** · 03-26-2010, 01:55 PM

btw off topic cat 10.3b will be out today fixes flashing in bad company

**Nightcover** · 03-26-2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by EnisDonKing

Too bad they didn't provide some video link from the event. That would be interesting.

indeed.
but read this:

5:56
Ashley McBroom:
No livestream guys but we will post some great video clips of this as soon as we can after the event

**Dezmen** · 03-26-2010, 01:56 PM

**96redformula** · 03-26-2010, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Chumbucket843

yep, its just a matter of how soon they think they can get a 28nm gpu out.

I am thinking 28nm going into production also means ati 6xxx series

**96redformula** · 03-26-2010, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Dezmen

Official IXBT.com benchmarks.

Test Box:
Intel Core I7 CPU 920 (2667 MHz);
ASUS P6T Deluxe;
3 GB DDR3 SDRAM Corsair 1066MHz;
WD Caviar SE WD1600JD 160GB SATA.
Tagan TG900-BZ 900W.
Windows 7 32bit; DirectX 11;
Dell 3007WFP (30").
CATALYST 10.3; NVIDIA 197.17.

Game:Unigine Heaven Benchmark

I am beginning to think that nVidia provided Uningine or made it a requirement for reviews.....

Update from PAX EVENT

People are streaming in and trying to get the best seats. And they've brought plenty of green thundersticks that we've been giving out in the booth all day so it's going to not just be packed, but it's going to be NOISY

, they have green thunder sticks...ATI is screwed now

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