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    Ill be wanting to know this also because I have a MSI DKA-790GX platinum that had a bad flash. it just sits here doing nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
    Never ever ever use m-flash ever ever ever.

    Your board is bricked, call MSI.

    Heres a quick thread but I've read worse, mostly about intel P55 like its said. I dunno how many times I've read "mflash or m-flash" but it's not good:
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ht=mflash+bios

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    If anything is in the drive, drives come with pins that you can insert and it pushes the drive door open so you can pull it out. If you dont have one a needle will work.
    Thanks beep for the responce, I can get the drive open. I was just mentioning the the drive doesn't open when the system is powered on. It just has a flashing light. It was for a symptom of the issue kind of thing I read that thread, and it seems I might be out of luck. I am not sure if I can RMA the board or not. I have flashed many bios updates on many boards, never had this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceboy View Post
    ocing cpu and ram
    at this point in time?

    Bios's are to new to give an unbiased opinion....All cpu's would need to be tested to answer this question....
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    Thats why I wonder why they cant spen $3 more to add a second BIOS. I failed a flash on my Gigabyte 790X-UD4P and it booted right up from the factory bios.
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    I ran some tests today using a 64-bit OS. The full version Cat 10.3 GFX drivers loaded right up first try this morning. All the 3DMark bench tests ran except 3DMark06 as it wouldn’t start. The usual fix got all the other running but not 06 I’ll add it later.
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    very nice work oldtimer! what was your sideport freq? i ran mine at 1600MHz(cpu-z incorrectly shows it at 600) w/o any voltage adjustments(1.3v stock).
    i havent tested if it affects performance if sideport is at 1333MHz(stock) while UMA is at 1680MHz(as in your settings above.) thanks!

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    Thanks wuttz, the sideport is @667 in the bios and the IGP core is @940 and NB is @1.52+v.
    I'm going to test some more games tomorrow. I've just starting to gain a very limited understanding of what this combination likes. I think I may have been a bit heavy handed with the IGP so far and I plan to back off on the juice and clocks to see it it likes the game test a little better.

    I've been watching your results also and nice work BTW. Did you ever find a way to cool the NB other than stock air cooling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoldtimer View Post
    I've been watching your results also and nice work BTW. Did you ever find a way to cool the NB other than stock air cooling?
    thanks oldtimer! if you also increase your sideport mems to match your UMA(512MB) clocks it should help performance by a little bit.

    re: cooling, i found one on ebay for $10. he still has to ship it though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuttz View Post
    thanks oldtimer! if you also increase your sideport mems to match your UMA(512MB) clocks it should help performance by a little bit.

    re: cooling, i found one on ebay for $10. he still has to ship it though..
    UMA at 512mb is not the "sweetspot"

    Keep testing
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    UMA at 512mb is not the "sweetspot"

    Keep testing
    ohhhh, thanks chew*
    gonna have to vary the memory sizes then!

    btw, do you have any more tests you would like us to run?
    i just finished stalker/call of pripryat but still have to tabulate and graph the data. i also have battlefield bad company 2 but it doesnt have any benchmark features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuttz View Post
    ohhhh, thanks chew*
    gonna have to vary the memory sizes then!

    btw, do you have any more tests you would like us to run?
    i just finished stalker/call of pripryat but still have to tabulate and graph the data. i also have battlefield bad company 2 but it doesnt have any benchmark features.
    I'd like to see some Hl2 episode 2, with screens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    I'd like to see some Hl2 episode 2, with screens.
    cool i'll have that next.

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    I found this rather interesting.......you have the intel guys beating on IGP lately in the h55 comp.......

    Seems the clarkdale IGP is only better in vantage.......

    Find this rather interesting after mention of the anandtech article.
    ( *disclaimer* I never read it )

    Best 01
    http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...le_19534_marks

    Best 03
    http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...ale_8561_marks

    Best 05
    http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...ale_5813_marks

    Best 06
    http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...ale_3007_marks

    Best vantage.........I get the feeling based on all other results somethings fishy with intel drivers......as it's an ass kicking in all other benches.....
    http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...ale_1101_marks

    Best Aquamark.
    http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...le_49803_marks
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuttz View Post
    thanks oldtimer! if you also increase your sideport mems to match your UMA(512MB) clocks it should help performance by a little bit.

    re: cooling, i found one on ebay for $10. he still has to ship it though..
    I ran all those 64-bit tests @512MB, no special reason I was just trying to get some mid-clock results posted. These are the first tests on the 64-bit OS and I thought I would start the sideport mem high this time as I had been running the sideport at 128MB on the 32-bit OS as seen in the last test SS (3d06 on 32-bit).

    I'm going to test 3DMark03 some more today (as it's more of a GFX test than 05 or 06) by using different combinations on the sideport. Then I'll try to get to some game tests.

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    Alright i'll make this short and simple.

    I cannot find the C3 PIIx4 965 anywhere can somebody tell me what model number or something to look for so I can find it?

    Also which motherboard do I get you all choose different stuff?
    I'll tell you what I plan on doin on this board
    DD3 Ram Is a Must
    4x memory slot
    I want to run Crossfire 5850's

    & I want some decent OC ability.

    You guys all run UD3H UDP5 UD4P (i'm sure I got those model numbers backwards some how)
    And MSI boards..

    I'm sorry to seem so noobish but this boggles my mind. :P

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    ---sorry for double

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    Make sure it lists 125w in the specs, not the old C2's 140w.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrentH View Post
    Alright i'll make this short and simple.

    I cannot find the C3 PIIx4 965 anywhere can somebody tell me what model number or something to look for so I can find it?

    Also which motherboard do I get you all choose different stuff?
    I'll tell you what I plan on doin on this board
    DD3 Ram Is a Must
    4x memory slot
    I want to run Crossfire 5850's

    & I want some decent OC ability.

    You guys all run UD3H UDP5 UD4P (i'm sure I got those model numbers backwards some how)
    And MSI boards..

    I'm sorry to seem so noobish but this boggles my mind. :P
    955c3: HDZ955FBGMBOX

    965c3: HDZ965FBGMBOX

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrentH View Post
    Alright i'll make this short and simple.

    I cannot find the C3 PIIx4 965 anywhere can somebody tell me what model number or something to look for so I can find it?

    Also which motherboard do I get you all choose different stuff?
    I'll tell you what I plan on doin on this board
    DD3 Ram Is a Must
    4x memory slot
    I want to run Crossfire 5850's

    & I want some decent OC ability.

    You guys all run UD3H UDP5 UD4P (i'm sure I got those model numbers backwards some how)
    And MSI boards..

    I'm sorry to seem so noobish but this boggles my mind. :P
    On top of the box OPN HDZ965FBGIBOX=C2
    On top of the box OPN HDZ965FBGMBOX=C3 the forth letter in from the right is the difference M for the C3

    The box is different as well as seen below C3 is the smaller box on the left sporting the pattern

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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    I found this rather interesting.......you have the intel guys beating on IGP lately in the h55 comp.......


    Best vantage.........I get the feeling based on all other results somethings fishy with intel drivers......as it's an ass kicking in all other benches.....
    http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...ale_1101_marks
    theyve done it before, not a surprise if they did it again.

    http://techreport.com/articles.x/17732

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    I ran 3DMark01 and yesterdays missing 3DMark06 today in Windows 7 64-bit. All the clocks are the same as all the other 64-bit tests earlier.

    3DMark01



    3DMark06

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    thought Id ask for help here, I borrowed some ram from a friend so I could mess around with this mobo. I installed windows 7 64 and downloaded all the updates but Ive been havinf this problem and dont see what it could be. Theres nothing running.....



    Im getting really high cpu usage and dont know why anybody have a fix for this? or encountered it?Also when you moving the mouse it pauses all over the screen like every 2 seconds.
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    4.61ghz water

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    http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...rpi4500mhz.jpg
    25,396 06 Phenom 965@ 4.4ghz HIS 5970@960/1260
    21,893 Vantage, Phenom 965 4.2ghz HIS 5970 @960/1260

    Phenom 2 125w 965 test results
    http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...d.php?t=117414
    Phenom 2 140w 965 test results
    http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...d.php?t=109214
    Phenom 2 AM2+ 940 cold air results
    http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...ad.php?t=97430

    If I dont get every single drop out of my cpu I feel like someone is stealing from me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan7171 View Post
    thought Id ask for help here, I borrowed some ram from a friend so I could mess around with this mobo. I installed windows 7 64 and downloaded all the updates but Ive been havinf this problem and dont see what it could be. Theres nothing running.....

    Im getting really high cpu usage and dont know why anybody have a fix for this? or encountered it?Also when you moving the mouse it pauses all over the screen like every 2 seconds.
    What drivers are installed? disable the HDMI audio device if installed, it is a long shot, but worth a try. Download Process explorer from microsoft, do a search for sysinternals. Post a screen shot of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charged3800z24 View Post
    What drivers are installed? disable the HDMI audio device if installed, it is a long shot, but worth a try. Download Process explorer from microsoft, do a search for sysinternals. Post a screen shot of it.
    Ok I think I fixed it I did a system restore and reinstalled the chipset drivers.

    The only things installed were the chipset drivers and I did the windows updates. that was it! so it stopped.

    ok I found it it was my cd/dvd-rom drive driver which updated itself..........right after, the problem started again, so I disabled it for now, problem solved.
    Last edited by Titan7171; 03-25-2010 at 06:00 PM.
    AMD 1090T@4.0ghz
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    ht 2400mhz / nb 2400mhz
    12gb Gskill 1300mhz
    HIS HD5970
    Enermax Evo Galaxy 1250
    case: XCLIO A380PLUS-BK

    4.61ghz water

    4.5ghz superpi 1M 15.585
    http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...rpi4500mhz.jpg
    25,396 06 Phenom 965@ 4.4ghz HIS 5970@960/1260
    21,893 Vantage, Phenom 965 4.2ghz HIS 5970 @960/1260

    Phenom 2 125w 965 test results
    http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...d.php?t=117414
    Phenom 2 140w 965 test results
    http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...d.php?t=109214
    Phenom 2 AM2+ 940 cold air results
    http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...ad.php?t=97430

    If I dont get every single drop out of my cpu I feel like someone is stealing from me

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