Quote Originally Posted by zerazax
Okay, and what does your statement have anything to do with comparing across the board? You just said you don't care if a title isn't neutral...

And I agree to get it for the games you care about, but again, if people say 24% across the board, but the games you care about are on the 10% end and not the 50% end, who's selling what?
Sure I agree that "across the board" performance summaries don't mean much when deciding to buy a video card. But I am talking about them (and have calculated those scores) because there had been a lot of talk regarding how faster than 5870 it would be generally. Charlie said 5%, some other guy 25%, someone 15%, someone 40% etc.

But you're right in that if Charlie wanted to, he could cherry pick settings, games and scenarios to make himself correct. So could pretty much everyone (remember Nvidia says a 8600gt can be faster than HD5870 lol), but these good selection of games I think would allow for a generalized "this card is better than that card generally % something, at this resolution and settings" statement.

A lot of settings which clearly don't favor Nvidia? Where's the list of these settings?? I don't see where you're drawing that from at all
What I meant was that the resolutions weren't cherry picked from game to game. There are numbers for 1920+4xAA, 1920+8xAA, 2560+4xAA and 2560+8xAA (the only settings a Fermi buyer should care about) for pretty much every game in the benchmark, and in some of those resolutions HD5870 performs a lot better compared to other resolutions, but these weren't omitted and a lot of data was presented whether it favored Nvidia or not.

Anyway, if these benchmarks are fake I'll have a good laugh at this discussion