Funny how some people don't like the rumored benched numbers of cards out in the wild, but will take PR number comparisons to heart!

Quote Originally Posted by Carfax View Post
Exactly. ATI has had what, 7 months or so to refine their drivers? Nvidia should easily add about 15 to 20% (possibly more) increase in performance from driver optimizations alone over the next few months..

I'm betting the 200.xx drivers will be the first to have real G100 optimizations..
Quote Originally Posted by Carfax View Post
I don't know about ATI, but this is fairly routine with Nvidia.

The G200's release drivers were the 170xx, but it wasn't until the 180xx drivers that the architecture received it's first significant boost....to the tune of 10 > 15%.. Of course the recent 190xx drivers added even more, so all in all I'd say my GTX 285 is about 20% faster on average right now than it was on release day.

And remember that the G200 isn't as radical a change in architecture as Fermi is..
And again, Nvidia has had at least 4 months, if not more, working on drivers. Specs might not have been finalized, but the drivers and architecture were well known in advance. Yes, it's a newer architecture, but the driver team has definitely had a lot longer to work on it than GT200 did. So in relation to GT200, we're probably at the 180.xx range more so than the 170.xx range.

Either way, I'm not betting on the drivers to unlock 10-20% when the card is already 6 months late. We're talking about the fact that in 6 months, new competition/refreshes will be out and they'd have to be compared to those cards.

Quote Originally Posted by Chumbucket843 View Post
if the leaks are right here is a graphic of the gtx480 i made bc i have too much free time. it has a 24% advantage overall so it could sell at $480vand offer same perf/dollar as 5870. i would have included 5970 but im having trouble finding reviews with these games.

idk why -1% ends up +1% on crysis.
Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
I've made the calculations:

GTX 480 beats the HD5870 %24 average on 1920 + 4xAA, and 23% average on 2560 + 4xAA.

GTX 470 performs nearly completely equal to HD5870 on both settings.

if those benches are correct.
You guys are calculating +24% overall when it's based on a limited selection of games, chosen by Nvidia, with settings unknown. I mean, look at Batman:AA... everyone knows Nvidia does better on that game by a good amount, but that's being factored into an already small sample size, meaning the %'s will look even better for Nvidia.

Let's wait for the real numbers before concluding +%'s shall we? Especially from PR numbers!