I did not say you won't get the same experience. I did say that I do get better experience, because I do notice the difference. If you don't and/or PhII is enough for you then stop right now because any (Intel or AMD) faster processor would be useless for you. However I bet you will buy a new one much sooner than you think, then what, you bought it to get a better experience? You had a good enough one, right?
I dont notice the difference between 100 or 120frames per second.So in these rare cpu bound situations (all games i play are gpu bound) its not gonna make a difference for me between say 3.5 PH2 or even 4ghz i5/7.
Faster processors and specially more cores ARE useful to me because i like to do many things at once,like encode and game at the same time.Thats the reason im upgrading to thuban .Migrating to i5 750 would be more expensive and wouldnt get me more performance on my workload.So, it would be stupid of me ;-).

There is no such thing as agree to disagree, there are two processors, one is faster, you choose the slower one because it's enough for you. Don't try to make the faster one look bad or something because you can't/don't need to use it to its full potential, even more when you are in XS, we do use our CPUs.
Well, there is this kind of thing when people are being civilized and understand that their OPINION, could be different than others .But ok,lets dwell.
I dont MAKE faster processors look bad.What i was saying in the beginning in the reply to your statement, was that i wont be sacrificing any game experience using multicore cpu slower PER core than lets say i5 750 because pretty much every new game is GPU bound, and the older ones that arent, reach astronomical amounts of FPS on both processors.
And i stand by that.Remember, its YOU that said to ME that i WILL GET INFERIOR gaming experience on thuban than i5 or i7.So its was you who was painting one processor in bad light.I am saying that in gaming both processors are gpu bound.And you havent prove me wrong.You just said there is a difference, but every review with high quality gfx out there shows that GPUs run out of juice WAAAY faster than cpu.

Yes, I don't need to test PhII, its perfomance is well known already thanks to the trillions of comparisons out there, it sits right there with the C2Qs at the same clocks and I've owned a C2Q. i5/i7 are out of sight. This is a fact, not a guess.
Funny, i remember when i7 launched, it was sweeping through benchmarks like a plasma torch, however when it came to gaming it wasnt that much faster, if i remember correctly 12MB L2 cpus from intel were even sometimes faster.
And yes ,PH2 is slower in almost every gaming benchmark than i7.But to show that benchmarks have to be run in low quality.And nobody games that way.

About the games, I'm not talking about guesses like you. The best review I can read is play the games myself. If C2Q-->i5 gives me 20 minFPS more I don't need to read anything more except to confirm my findings, something I've already done, and that's why I write what I write. If you don't believe me about the TF2 increase, go read any review that test Source Engine games like L2D or play it, you'll see it for yourself. If you don't believe me about the Assassin's Creed increase, go walk into a crowd in your machine, etc. I can feel any of these right after firing up the game. If you can't well, you can't, but I do. Yeah I remember the whole load of "slower but smoother" BS. Thank god AMD has improved with PhII vs the original Phenom, and magically we don't hear it anymore. I bet a lot of hardcore AMD guys do love to play between 50-80 instead of 70-150, exageration but you get the idea.
Well, i played too, i often use different platforms, and well, i havent seen what you see.Not between PH2 and nehalem.So we have different opinions here.And i wont agree with you just because u say so.
I played source based games, and they were absurdly fast.
I played AS, it was boring but no dramatical slowdowns, nope.
You say that "smoother" feel was BS, but well, you did notice that between core and nehalem, so maybe it has to do with something as obvious as build in MC ?Ofcourse you just call it BS, because you admit that you havent even tested PH2...
And the last part.Of course, exaggeration ;-)
Because you really i see have a feeling towards min fps.Heres a snippet.
[QUOTE]http://www.pcgameshardware.com/scree...iginal/2009/11
In this cpu bound game you have this drastic difference of 10%...
And REALLY anything above 80FPS is just insanely hard to SEE.In pretty much any normal game, resolution and IQ ,most of the people are going to hardly go above 60FPS (which is ofcourse plenty for our eyes, remember that movies at the cinema have 24)

ou don't see increases in framerate in a CPU bound game when you increase CPU frequency?
Of course we see, its just that pretty much all recent games are GPU bound at humane IQ settings.
So as i said before, i disagreeabout your comment that using multicore phenom II cpu wont get me pretty much the same gaming experience as i7.When clocked high enough (much higher than i7) all my gaming situations are ,and morover gonna be when i upgrade to 5850 ,GPU LIMITED.