Quote Originally Posted by dess View Post
There is no such thing like a "K10h". You can call it either K10, where "10" is a decimal ten, meaning the 10th in the "K" line. Alternatively, you can call it F10h, where the F is the abbreviation of Family and "10h" is a hexadecimal number which equals decimal 16, meaning the 16th family of AMD x86 CPU's (which followed Family F(h) (K8), where F(h) equals decimal 15). So, "K10h" is a stupid mixture, used by some people knowing nothing about hexadecimal numbers.
Thanks for correcting me. My bad, making a stupid mixture of K10 and F10h(or how AMD calls their K10/K10.5 in their tech docs). As for the hexadecimal numbers... Do you think that an electrical engineer with an M.Sc degree, who has programmed in assembler at age of 15, knows nothing about hexadecimal numbers?

Quote Originally Posted by jcmarfilph View Post
dream on

3Ghz Bloomfield should be around 3.3-3.4 Ghz Deneb only


Quote Originally Posted by Oliverda View Post
I'm pretty sure that you're completely wrong but the time will prove right one of us.
Of course, sooner or latter time will tell.

Don't be afraid because I'm not misinterpreting anything. I know both architectures well. Just try to understand that the X6 will have 50% more cores than Bloomfield/Lynnfield which can compensate the lower clock2clock performance in many applications. That's all.
And that would be the case only when heavily(more than 4 cores) multithreaded software comes in to play. For the rest of the apps, which are not optimized to utilize more than 4 cores, and such are most of the apps available today, the extra 50% cores will be useless, while the higher IPC of Nehalem will yield higher performance.

Just to mention some popular titles which can take advantage of the 6 or more threads/cores: Adobe After Effects, Adobe Premier Pro, Sony Vegas, Cyberlink converters, Finereader, 3ds max, Maya, Lightwave, etc...
I agree, most of the apps you mentioned can take advantage of the 50% extra cores, but that won't yield 50% better performance. Most of these apps will yield no more than 15~20% better performance. Only the x264 and divX converters might yield 30+% better performance in average(and that depends of the type and quality). That won't be enough to counter an i7 clocked 5% lower.

If an application can't take advantage of the more than four thread/cores than it can't take advantage of the HT neither.
Exactly. And in such scenario, Nehalem dominates over same clocked Phenom II.

I stand behind what I said. I hope that benches will popup in the following two weeks, so we can include some exact numbers in our discussion.