Has anyone pointed out yet that ATI having had the 5800 series in market for ~8 months means they're more or less in refresh territory?

If the GTX 480 can just barely, ever so slightly edge out the 5870 (while using much more power)... Things aren't looking too good if ATI can just launch a 5890...

Not that they will for sure, but AFAIK 8 - 12 months is a pretty typical time for a refresh (at least since I've been following tech).