H20 | AMD Phenom II C3 | Dragon's Revenge | Ultimate Thread

[64NOMIS]

This is some classic work. I will have you know that, by now, most of the north bridge ASIC team has seen it!

crazydiamond, I particularly enjoyed the UT3 benchmark run, nice to see the FPS delta on a real (great) game.

BeepBeep2 welcome to the arena.

chew* & MSIMax you are DQ'd for coming to a conventional war armed with nukes. I have suggested the admin's move your post to another website far, far away. Nice pictures though. And I guess breaking every AMD IGP record in existance, more or less, counts for something. Oh, and nice of you to debut that IGP pot. About time.

[gOtVoltage]

Haha ,, these threads keep geting better by the Day...Definatly the right guys were used to abusing Hardware here


Another great Thread i must say...

gotVoltage

[charged3800z24]

I will post some results soon, I'll be dancing with oldtimer on this one. I am having trouble getting the 4290 installed. I have been having some bad luck lately lol. be back soon.

P.S. Thanks Simon... board looks good.

[wuttz]

Test Platform

AMD Phenom II 965BE 3.4GHz, CPU-NB@2.0GHz
Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H
G.Skill DDR3-1600 CL9
Silverstone ST-1000
Seagate 7200.12 500GB/16MB

Screenshots : http://s664.photobucket.com/albums/vv4/wuttzi/HD4290/





Comments:
1. In the SidePort tests, I get better results (higher delta)when increasing memory speed to 1600 from 1333 rather than increasing GPU clock from 497 to 895.
2. In the UMA+SidePort tests, the biggest performance gain is increasing memory size from 512(UMA only) to 512+128(UMA+SidePort), rather than increasing GPU clocks.

3. It kills the Intel Corei5 661 in 3DMark 2006 IGP benching.

Will do gaming tests next.

[BeepBeep2]

I broke 3200 '06...but I lost the screen. I've got another chance tomorrow...

[charged3800z24]

I seriously cannot install this video driver. Nothing works..lol. I even modified the inf. Any one have any issues?

[wuttz]

charged, i needed to do a clean install to get it to work properly.

[theoldtimer]

I seriously cannot install this video driver. Nothing works..lol. I even modified the inf. Any one have any issues?

So do you have the MSI MB now?

Are you trying to install the video drivers in Windows 7 32-bit? I had a little bit of trouble in the 32-bit version myself. If you are using the 64-bit version of 7 good luck? I have tried two fresh installs of 7 64-bit today trying to get the video drivers to install but so far no joy. I've tried cat 10.3, 10.2 and 9.12. I tried the ones on the MSI drivers CD also. I'll try some different thing tomorrow when I have the time.

[charged3800z24]

I just installed 10.3 preview driver and it worked. I couldn't find my installs for all my 3dmark bech software and had to download them all again. I was still downloading 3d06 when I ran this with all stock setting.

here is the board and the 3d03 results. I will start getting a range of results together this week. Gotta squeaze the time in between all the family stuff.

[64NOMIS]

Test Platform

AMD Phenom II 965BE 3.4GHz, CPU-NB@2.0GHz
Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H
G.Skill DDR3-1600 CL9
Silverstone ST-1000
Seagate 7200.12 500GB/16MB

Screenshots : http://s664.photobucket.com/albums/vv4/wuttzi/HD4290/





Comments:
1. In the SidePort tests, I get better results (higher delta)when increasing memory speed to 1600 from 1333 rather than increasing GPU clock from 497 to 895.
2. In the UMA+SidePort tests, the biggest performance gain is increasing memory size from 512(UMA only) to 512+128(UMA+SidePort), rather than increasing GPU clocks.

3. It kills the Intel Corei5 661 in 3DMark 2006 IGP benching.

Will do gaming tests next.

Slick work. How about UT3 with crazydiamond's settings?

[wuttz]

Slick work. How about UT3 with crazydiamond's settings?

thanks chief, i just finished hawx right now.

Tom Clancy's HAWX
Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H/HD4290 Performance Evaluation

Test Platform
AMD Phenom II 965BE 3.4GHz, CPU-NB@2.0GHz
Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H
G.Skill DDR3-1600 CL9
Silverstone ST-1000
Seagate 7200.12 500GB/16MB




Notes:
1. Low game settings:
a. refresh rate=60
b. anti-aliasing=none
c. vsync=off
d. fullscreen=on
e. view distance=low
f. forest=low
g. environment=low
h. texture quality=low
i. hdr=on
j. engine heat=on
k. dof=on

2. High game settings:
a. refresh rate=60
b. anti-aliasing=4x
c. vsync=off
d. fullscreen=on
e. view distance=high
f. forest=high
g. environment=high
h. texture quality=high
i. hdr=on
j. engine heat=on
k. dof=on

I will do UT3 next.

[Daveburt714]

Slick work. How about UT3 with crazydiamond's settings?

Simon: Were you wanting us to push the IGP?
Don't get me wrong, it seems very capable, but not all that important from my point of view... It's nice for a cheap HTPC, but I prefer a stand alone card anyway.

Maybe I'm not following the rules, but I'm having fun testing the new chipsets other capabilities, and they seem pretty impressive!

After a few days of bench testing, I actually tore my main rig apart tonight and intalled this board on it:



I took that silly little aluminum cap off the PWM section and put the Antec Spot cool over it, with the heatpipe that should help keep the NB cool as well.

I've gotten better clocks with this board, especially on the IMC, but I do have new RAM too, not sure how much that plays a part...

I'll do some more testing in the days to come, but my machine seems much snappier and there seems to be a pretty big improvement with an SSD and AHCI mode... (Sweet!)

There are a few new options in this BIOS that I'm not familiar with. They're circled in RED. If anyone has a clue as to what these may help stablaize I'd appreciate the input!
I bumped them both a little and got pretty nice results...



The best example of this is my IMC clocks! With the GBT 790XT-UD4P the best my chip would do stable on the IMC was ~2600 reguardless of voltage...

Here is what I have with this board:



So, thats around +50 on the cores, +150 on the IMC and +100 on the memory....
Life is good!

If you want IGP tests, just let me know... I'll be happy to run whatever you want...

If not, now that I'm on water, there will be some AHCI, IMC and HTRef tests coming your way...

[chew*]

Voltage 1 is preety useless.

Voltage 2 can help a tad when running high PCI with an IDE drive......but usually I find high pci has little impact on 3d on giga.

[Daveburt714]

Thanks chew*!

BTW: pretty sure your right about these Mushkins having BBSE chips.
They're still much better than my cheapo Crucial D9KPT's though...

I know your tight with GBT man. These chips seem to have no problem running decent timings over 1600.
If I actually set them to 1600 in bios though, my machine won't even post...

If I set them to 1333 and crank the HTRef to 250 they run fine though. Wierd...

[spaceboy]

so,is it better Asus or Gygabyte with 890GX ??

thanks

[chew*]

Thanks chew*!

BTW: pretty sure your right about these Mushkins having BBSE chips.
They're still much better than my cheapo Crucial D9KPT's though...

I know your tight with GBT man. These chips seem to have no problem running decent timings over 1600.
If I actually set them to 1600 in bios though, my machine won't even post...

If I set them to 1333 and crank the HTRef to 250 they run fine though. Wierd...

That is a problem with all boards.....not just giga....read my gskill ECO review.

so,is it better Asus or Gygabyte with 890GX ??

thanks

Is what better?

[64NOMIS]

Simon: Were you wanting us to push the IGP?
Don't get me wrong, it seems very capable, but not all that important from my point of view... It's nice for a cheap HTPC, but I prefer a stand alone card anyway.

Maybe I'm not following the rules, but I'm having fun testing the new chipsets other capabilities, and they seem pretty impressive!

After a few days of bench testing, I actually tore my main rig apart tonight and intalled this board on it:



I took that silly little aluminum cap off the PWM section and put the Antec Spot cool over it, with the heatpipe that should help keep the NB cool as well.

I've gotten better clocks with this board, especially on the IMC, but I do have new RAM too, not sure how much that plays a part...

I'll do some more testing in the days to come, but my machine seems much snappier and there seems to be a pretty big improvement with an SSD and AHCI mode... (Sweet!)

There are a few new options in this BIOS that I'm not familiar with. They're circled in RED. If anyone has a clue as to what these may help stablaize I'd appreciate the input!
I bumped them both a little and got pretty nice results...



The best example of this is my IMC clocks! With the GBT 790XT-UD4P the best my chip would do stable on the IMC was ~2600 reguardless of voltage...

Here is what I have with this board:



So, thats around +50 on the cores, +150 on the IMC and +100 on the memory....
Life is good!

If you want IGP tests, just let me know... I'll be happy to run whatever you want...

If not, now that I'm on water, there will be some AHCI, IMC and HTRef tests coming your way...

It's free form dude this chapter. It is interesting to see the NB OC, I don't think there have been a lot of threads on it, agree?

But no limitations, save staying with overall direction of the thread and the H20 and cold air focus. Remember, there is a component of this work that is training and preparation for something more...

[wuttz]

UT3 Quickie

Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H/HD4290 Performance Evaluation

Test Platform
AMD Phenom II 965BE 3.4GHz, CPU-NB@2.0GHz
Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H
G.Skill DDR3-1600 CL9
Silverstone ST-1000
Seagate 7200.12 500GB/16MB

Resolution: 1280x1024, Texture/Level: 3
HD4290@895MHz, 512MB UMA+128MB SidePort @1600MHz

Will post multi-resolution benchmarks later, have to summarize data.

[Titan7171]

Sorry guys I hate sitting on the sideline now......but I still havent bought DDR3 for this mobo and all I have is DDR2 from my current setup. After spending over a 1g between my 5970 and Windows 7 64bit I have no money left for ram

So my results are gonna have to wait till I can get the ram. Hope to be up and running soon.

Daveburt and everybody else I have been very curious about the NB has anybody else but dave pushed it so far or seen any difference from what they could easily get before compared to what they can achieve now??? Is 3ghz a possability?

I can run 2.8ghz 24/7 already and can go up to 2.9-3ghz under certain conditions......well really I guess that would be normal conditions



Anyway 3 ghz was already very close for me for 24/7 And Im hoping this new chipset might have a bit more in it? So after my initial IGP results Ill be posting some comparisons between my current 24/7 overcclocks which are,

4.2ghz
2.8ghz nb
2.6ghz HTT
200mz bus speed

to this new chiopsets 24/7 limitations. Cant wait to get started

[gOtVoltage]

Sorry guys I hate sitting on the sideline now......but I still havent bought DDR3 for this mobo and all I have is DDR2 from my current setup. After spending over a 1g between my 5970 and Windows 7 64bit I have no money left for ram

Dont feel bad bro.... I Know the feeling.

I grabbed a great can crusher last year for like five bucks..it paid for my 5750's lol.

This will cheer ya up bit , i think.
Warning may be diffacult to use manually on the real big cans

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1172765/can_crusher/

[wuttz]

Test Platform
AMD Phenom II 965BE 3.4GHz, CPU-NB@2.0GHz
Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H
G.Skill DDR3-1600 CL9
Silverstone ST-1000
Seagate 7200.12 500GB/16MB

Unreal Tournament III



Results Reference: http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/UT3BENCH.png

Game Settings
Global
Level: vCTF-Necropolis_fly_fly
Software Settings
12, 60
Hardware Settings
Sound, Window, DX10 (All Unselected)
Texture Details 1
Level Details 1

STreet Fighter IV



Game Settings
AA none
VSynch off
framerate variable
parallel rendering on
texture filter off
model q low
background q high
soft shadow low
self shadow low
motion blur low
particles low
extra touch off

[Titan7171]

Dont feel bad bro.... I Know the feeling.

I grabbed a great can crusher last year for like five bucks..it paid for my 5750's lol.

This will cheer ya up bit , i think.
Warning may be diffacult to use manually on the real big cans

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1172765/can_crusher/

you mean a soda can crusher??

I think I could find other things to do with that can crusher lol

[spaceboy]

Is what better?

ocing cpu and ram

[charged3800z24]

I am batting a thousand... I had 1.0b bios on the board and was having some weird AOD issues. i downloaded the first release bios from MSI's website. I went into the bios entered the m-flash option. I browsed to my flash drive and let it flash. Now the system won't post and the CD Rom drive just flashes and won't even open the drive. Any suggestion, Does this board support a recovery method? Board is the 890GXM-G65.

[BeepBeep2]

Never ever ever use m-flash ever ever ever.

Your board is bricked, call MSI.

Heres a quick thread but I've read worse, mostly about intel P55 like its said. I dunno how many times I've read "mflash or m-flash" but it's not good:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ht=mflash+bios

EDIT:

If anything is in the drive, drives come with pins that you can insert and it pushes the drive door open so you can pull it out. If you dont have one a needle will work.