The Fermi Thread - Part 3

**Olivon** · 03-23-2010, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

Unimpressive.

Yeah, right.

Even with a "maybe" young 196.78 set, scores are not really impressive.

Smooth gameplay on Crysis Warhead maxed out 1920X1200 seems to be not possible with this mono GPU generation. Maybe next ?

Originally Posted by eric66

this ones are old

It seems the last ones was about 2560X1600 def

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...19&postcount=2

**kemo** · 03-23-2010, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Olivon

Yeah, right.

Even with a "maybe" young 196.78 set, scores are not really impressive.

Smooth gameplay on Crysis Warhead maxed out 1920X1200 seems to be not possible with this mono GPU generation. Maybe next ?

Who Cares about Crysis when Metro.2033 craps out on 1680X1050 with every thing maxed on HD5870

**Luka_Aveiro** · 03-23-2010, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by kemo

Who Cares about Crysis when Metro.2033 craps out on 1680X1050 with every thing maxed on HD5870

Play DX9.

**Olivon** · 03-23-2010, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by kemo

Who Cares about Crysis when Metro.2033 craps out on 1680X1050 with every thing maxed on HD5870

Yeah

This game is really greedy

**Musho** · 03-23-2010, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by kemo

Who Cares about Crysis when Metro.2033 craps out on 1680X1050 with every thing maxed on HD5870

Just disable advanced DOF and tessellation under Directx11 settings. I didn't notice any difference in graphics quality, yet my FPS skyrocketed. AA can also be quite heavy on this game. AAA works quite a bit better than MSAA 4x for me, although it does show some jaggies every now and then. It's not that bad though.

**Musho** · 03-23-2010, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Turn it on in your browser options?

Fullscreen 2560x1600 only required vertical scrolling for me, I love it!

I bet you'll be vertically scrolling if I post a screenshot here

Eyefinity rocks

**annihilat0r** · 03-23-2010, 01:12 PM

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/03/...tx480-benches/

**Sn0wm@n** · 03-23-2010, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/03/...tx480-benches/

LOLL nvidia resorting to benchmark manipulation in order to pull ahead ??? :O wow... the fail is strong in them

**Chumbucket843** · 03-23-2010, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by flippin_waffles

Weren't their drivers responsible for the vast majority of Vista crashes? I've seen no evidence ever that supports the theory that somehow nv's drivers are vastly superior. The only thing i've seen is that some prefer nv's control panel, and they wave the profile flag as much as possible.

that pie chart reflects market share more than anything else. i have used both ATi and nvidia drivers. i do like having custom profiles with nvidia and in d3d apps i never had trouble with either. i use nvidia cards because i can run opengl apps that dont crash every 5 minutes from drivers.

**96redformula** · 03-23-2010, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/03/...tx480-benches/

That was a pretty funny read and an "in your face, I told you so attitude". We will know in a couple days...

**Sn0wm@n** · 03-23-2010, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by 96redformula

That was a pretty funny read and an "in your face, I told you so attitude". We will know in a couple days...

LOL you seriously think that nvidia might have a decent card after all we heard???? come on ......

**zerazax** · 03-23-2010, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

And at 1920 + 8xAA it averages about 5870 because of 5870's lack of memory.

Unimpressive.

Indeed. If the 2GB 5870s really make that much of a difference, then a 5870 2GB is probably in the GTX 480 range

**96redformula** · 03-23-2010, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

LOL you seriously think that nvidia might have a decent card after all we heard???? come on ......

Huh, damn I knew I wasn't clear enough in my message....

I meant we will know the truth with no tricks in a couple days, didn't mean a reference as to how well or crappy it will perform.

**eric66** · 03-23-2010, 01:35 PM

if some kinda monster comes out of this bs i will be very suprised 2 days left still no decent bench around

**Musho** · 03-23-2010, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by eric66

if some kinda monster comes out of this bs i will be very suprised 2 days left still no decent bench around

That would be great. I love competition

**Trigger5521** · 03-23-2010, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by eric66

if some kinda monster comes out of this bs i will be very suprised 2 days left still no decent bench around

usually not a good sign is it.

If 2x470's in SLI can run decent at 2560x1600 I'm in.

**GoldenTiger** · 03-23-2010, 01:44 PM

Unless something super-reliable surfaces I don't really care about speculation with only 2.5 days to go, frankly.

**blob** · 03-23-2010, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

LOLL nvidia resorting to benchmark manipulation in order to pull ahead ??? :O wow... the fail is strong in them

AMD already handed out free Steam Dirt2 keys to reviewers

Originally Posted by zerazax

Indeed. If the 2GB 5870s really make that much of a difference, then a 5870 2GB is probably in the GTX 480 range

guess which card will be released 2/3 days after the 470/480 release.

**96redformula** · 03-23-2010, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by blob

AMD already handed out free Steam Dirt2 keys to reviewers

guess which card will be released 2/3 days after the 470/480 release.

I just thought of something

.

AMD releasing 2GB versions of the 5870 also means that they must be using 10.3+ drivers on the reviews, which is also another good thing for AMD.

**Sn0wm@n** · 03-23-2010, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by blob

AMD already handed out free Steam Dirt2 keys to reviewers

guess which card will be released 2/3 days after the 470/480 release.

keys as in game activation keys??? wich means what exactly ????

other then to be able to have the game so reviewer can include it in their review

**Iconyu** · 03-23-2010, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

LOLL nvidia resorting to benchmark manipulation in order to pull ahead ??? :O wow... the fail is strong in them

To be fair, I think this is more a driver/profiling bug than manipulation. I'm not a nvidia lover by any means, but when they actually do cheat it's a little more subtle.
Sure they'll do gray all day long, as long as you need uncompressed jpg's and a magnifying glass to prove it, but nothing as black and white as this.

Edit: As for the Dirt 2 keys, I think it's to make sure you know every reviewer has access to the game, and thus if they leave it out they'd have to explain it. There aren't many DX11 games out, so it would be a crime to only bench Metro 2033. But saying that, I do think that nvidia might have a edge on post processing effects.

**Chickenfeed** · 03-23-2010, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/03/...tx480-benches/

Looks like things are panning out to the tune of Charlie be right more than wrong... interesting.

The only thing I don't agree with in this article is his comment about 87C... this isn't unheard of. With the default fan profile a 5870 consistently hovers at 86-87C for me at 1920x1200 4x AA in many games (reviews also reflect similar temps ; its the thermal / fan profile AMD targeted ) And if I recall a certain "8800GTX" did the same (ran in high 80 range) Now that said the 98C in furmark comment is scary.

**blob** · 03-23-2010, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

keys as in game activation keys??? wich means what exactly ????

other then to be able to have the game so reviewer can include it in their review

Problem seems to be that the dirt2 demo has a problem detecting the gtx470/480 card correctly and runs those cards in DX9 mode.
The full Dirt2 version doesn't seem to have this problem.

**Sn0wm@n** · 03-23-2010, 02:34 PM

DRIVER BUG??? and all this time i though nvidia didnt have driver bug .....

so nvidia did cheat in the past and they made it look subtle ???? so why not now .....

Originally Posted by blob

Problem seems to be that the dirt2 demo has a problem detecting the gtx470/480 card correctly and runs those cards in DX9 mode.
The full Dirt2 version doesn't seem to have this problem.

omg another driver bug idea ..... so lets blame the thing on a bug ..... instead of pr stunt

**Chickenfeed** · 03-23-2010, 02:38 PM

Its all in the name of PR. Anyone who is planning on buying a GTX4xx card without waiting for reviews won't have their minds changed by something such as this. As for the rest of the sane world, they will wait to take in the more level headed and honest reviews which will be out in force in a matter of days. Marketers embellishing the truth? Oh really?!

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