[Review] Round 2: EK Supreme HF

[rge]

Vapor may have a different opinion, but mine is whichever of the 3 is machined the best. I am starting to think blocks are like cpus, ymmv with performance.

@Vapor, are you just fully compressing springs when mounting Supreme HF?

[justin.kerr]

I believe Vapor stated that with each block, he attempted to get the same pressure with all mounts, and all blocks. not 100% sure.

I do agree that there is a variation in all blocks, and some will just perform slightly better than others of the exact same model, the amount of variation, I doubt is much, for the most part..

[Sushi Warrior]

Still would appreciate an answer on Supreme HF vs. Supreme LT..... :P

[Kibbler]

Still would appreciate an answer on Supreme HF vs. Supreme LT..... :P

Not to be an ass, ok? But you can answer this for yourself very easily. 1~2 minutes of effort, max.

Compare this
http://www.skinneelabs.com/ek-supreme-hf.html?page=4

To this
http://www.skinneelabs.com/i7-blocks-2.html

4.58C difference on his test bench.

[Sushi Warrior]

Well he said he changes his setup around, I never really trusted comparing reviews to other reviews.... better all at once

But it looks like quite the difference, definately worth my $30-40.

[kpablo]

Well he said he changes his setup around, I never really trusted comparing reviews to other reviews.... better all at once

But it looks like quite the difference, definately worth my $30-40.

He is using same test bench for both reviews/comparisons.

[mbreslin]

Sorry to bump as this contentious thread seemed to finally die down, anyway 24 hours ago I asked if it was worth going ek over xt for my setup, in that time ordered/received/installed, I love sidewinder they ship sooooooo fast. Here it is installed, can someone make sure this is the proper orientation, the pic isn't great but just in case you can't tell the ek is right side up if the pic was more clear you could read it, this is the correct orientation right?

Thanks.



(sexy I think!)

Edit: also both 7/16's compressions fit directly on the block, thanks ek much better than the xt had to use a 45 one one of them first.

[Vapor]

That's oriented the wrong way.

Why didn't you rotate the inlet plate on the XT?

[rge]

Mine is rotated 90 degrees to yours which I thought was correct way.

And I like the all black as well, looks good installed, my copper HK was kinda beaten/scratched up on top, should have gotten nickel top of HK, but tired of dremeling.

And since others posted there results in Vapors thread...my supreme HF is beating my HK 3.0, but only by 0.4C after 6 mounts with HK and only 3 mounts supreme (but still learning to mount supreme with proper pressure and using jet plate 2, but so far happy with it. I will post my results and data from all intake sensors/water/core in a new thread or on OC forums, once I have 6-8 mounts of each and with both plates, ie plate 1. Interesting to see variance in blocks/cpu/systems.

Edit: wow, took me 27 mins to double check on orientation....

[mbreslin]

can someone post a pic then of proper orientation, it looks just like the picture in the manual insert

edit: I guess just 90 degrees then, off to change it.

[JASSAF]

can someone post a pic then of proper orientation, it looks just like the picture in the manual insert

edit: I guess just 90 degrees then, off to change it.

the arrow indicates the right:

[DisposableHero]

i ordered the full copper version from performancepcs =)

[Feklar]

I don't think PPcs has the Copper HF Supreme version yet, only the original Supreme in copper. Unless that's what you wanted.

[Kibbler]

i ordered the full copper version from performancepcs =)

You sure you ordered the full copper HF...?? PPCs have not listed it yet. Can order directly from EK, though.

[kill_a_wat]

My EK Supreme HF Acetal just arrived. I'll see how it does vs the Apogee XT

[DisposableHero]

You sure you ordered the full copper HF...?? PPCs have not listed it yet. Can order directly from EK, though.

ah crap its the old one, not the HF...

so misleading, it said "NEW"

anyone know how much better the full copper one is supposed to be than the regular hf?

[scamps]

...
anyone know how much better the full copper one is supposed to be than the regular hf?

Noone is able to know, because noone was able to test this brand new baby. It won´t be so much difference, because it´s only another top with same internals. As small as the difference between Heatkiller CU and LT I guess.

But the new top is the most beautiful one I have seen since this one from Anfitec (a small german 2-boys-company):



Only a few days left for me waiting on the HF CU nickelplated

[Sadasius]

Just ordered the acetal version (like everything black) from dazmode. Was waiting on a review comparison and since I have dual pumps in series for excellent flow and this block also has great flow....well it just made sense!

[kill_a_wat]

Question: When attaching the backplate to Intel 1366 Socket are you supposed to fit the EPDM rubber between the backplate and the motherboard right?

Maybe I'm not reading the instructions properly, does anyone have a picture of the backplate installed on their 1366 socket mobo?

[Wezly]

Question: When attaching the backplate to Intel 1366 Socket are you supposed to fit the EPDM rubber between the backplate and the motherboard right?

Maybe I'm not reading the instructions properly, does anyone have a picture of the backplate installed on their 1366 socket mobo?

I used a different backplate because that rubber one was too thick with the backplate as well. There are also spacers, correct? See if yours provide more clearance than the ones I got, and also did not use.

[kill_a_wat]

@ Wezly - I'll check it out when I finish installing it - no time atm. Will post here for outcome

[Ketzer7]

The instructions here

http://81.90.180.2/ekwaterblocks/sho...0046990235.pdf

Are a little confusing. It shows using the rubber piece with the backplate for all sockets, except 1366, but in the written instructions for 1366 it mentions having to use the rubber piece, so...

Maybe Eddie can chime in here and clear this part up..

[Wezly]

The instructions here

http://81.90.180.2/ekwaterblocks/sho...0046990235.pdf

Are a little confusing. It shows using the rubber piece with the backplate for all sockets, except 1366, but in the written instructions for 1366 it mentions having to use the rubber piece, so...

Maybe Eddie can chime in here and clear this part up..

Yes, I was confused whether to follow the pictures or the written instructions.

[Church]

BTW, wouldn't it make sense to sell EK Supreme HF with one, best performing, plate but for less, and sell different plate kit for those wanting to experiment separately? I'm guessing that 90% of EKSHF buyers would simply put/use plate that gave best results in Vapor review, and only 10% would test different of them and most probably nine out of ten from those would stick with that plate aswell. So why ship extra stuff in kit that gonna be used by minority, if majority can gain from cheaper prices from configuration they want? Manufacturing those different intake plates probably isn't expensive. Nor do they make package weight noticeably more. But if those blocks are being bought in large volumes then even that small economy might sum up quite nicely.
Hmm, and another idea .. if there is such almost linear scale between performance/restriction with these plates .. i wonder if it makes sense to make one even more restrictive plate then current ones and test performance with it? (and i mean - manufactured by vendor/shipped with waterblock, not DIY on blank plate) I'm shure there might be ones that can live with restrictiveness more then that of ApogeeXT/Heatkiller, if resulting performance is increased even more ..

[century child]

I'm guessing no rubber insulator necessary for 1366 as with other blocks.

@ churchy It seems more people than you think want this option. The cost of these plates is going to be negligible so other than saving maybe maximum 5 bucks, go ahead and include them so folks have options. Look what happened with the new Koolance block when it's thread started. Quite a few folks chimed in and said they wanted plates shipped with it so Koolance is providing them as well.