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[BeepBeep2]

Well while you guys are on this topic this is all I could squeeze out of the gigabyte board with the stock cooler:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=29

[crazydiamond]

hey oldtimer have you installed the geekbench software to 64 bit before? having a problem getting the installer to run here

edit: and crystalmark is my new fav. bench just throw on some tunes, sit back & enjoy!

[wuttz]

wow! omg on the HD4290 clocks!
very nice chew* & that nb-pot leaves me drooling!

titan,
doesnt have to be subzero, in fact cold air would also be relevant so as to give air overclockers an idea.


btw guys, mind doing a counter to anandtech's screwed up and spinned 890GX review that did no favors by pitting an overclocked Intel GMA graphics with a stock HD4290?
maybe we can point out to him that HD4290's can clock too, ya know.

[msimax]

ok were back up deciding on our next victim. first food

[theoldtimer]

hey oldtimer have you installed the geekbench software to 64 bit before? having a problem getting the installer to run here

edit: and crystalmark is my new fav. bench just throw on some tunes, sit back & enjoy!

No I haven’t. The competition I was in a little while back had us running the 32-bit test only so that’s the only way I have tested it. Sorry I can’t help you right now. I can try it as 64-bit when I get a chance though.

wow! omg on the HD4290 clocks!
very nice chew* & that nb-pot leaves me drooling!

titan,
doesnt have to be subzero, in fact cold air would also be relevant so as to give air overclockers an idea.


btw guys, mind doing a counter to anandtech's screwed up and spinned 890GX review that did no favors by pitting an overclocked Intel GMA graphics with a stock HD4290?
maybe we can point out to him that HD4290's can clock too, ya know.

I wonder if we should include a game test? I’d think most us have one of those games we could test. I have Modern Warfare 2. We each could test a different game if need be.

[crazydiamond]

i can run the UT3 bench.. i will just run all the benches from your stock scores post minus geekbench for now. passing 3dm06 @ 1140mhz core 1700mhz sideport on air right now gonna try for a lil bit more then rip through the bench's. only have cpu @ 4.1/2.73 i think right now maybe i should give it a bump too

[wuttz]

ok were back up deciding on our next victim. first food

msimax, do you have game benchmarks as in the AT article?
eat well, benching is stressful!

[wuttz]

I wonder if we should include a game test? I’d think most us have one of those games we could test. I have Modern Warfare 2. We each could test a different game if need be.

i can do BFBC2 i have the game, and HAWX i think is a free download.

[wuttz]

Game Benchmarks TODO

(In Order of AT Article)
batman AA http://downloads.guru3d.com/Batman--...load-2347.html
dragon age:origins
warhammer:dawn of war II
Call of Duty 2 Benchmark - http://www.hocbench.com/cod2.php (requires full game to run)
Bioshock 2
World of Warcraft
HAWX - http://www.gamershell.com/download_40308.shtml

[Daveburt714]

Sorry for the delay guys... I had a previous commitment last night that I couldn't get out of.

I'm still waiting on RAM too (tommorow), but I'll be doing a little CPU/IMC testing tonight on air and post up some numbers later.

Those IGP numbers are just insane!
Gratz on the clocks, you guys always amaze!

[BeepBeep2]

http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...marks?tab=info - 3DMark01

http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...290_3004_marks - 3DMark06

I'm too lazy to install 03 and 05 tonight. I had some fun though. :P

IGP benching is a whole lot of fun... and technically I hold two trophies now XD

EDIT:

Just realized this is my 1337 'th post XD

[Daveburt714]

Ok... First set of CPU clock numbers.

These were done on air with the settup shown in this message:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=594

There are better air coolers out there now, but I just wanted to let you all know what I'm working with...
Ambient temps are ~21c (~70f).

I'm using CB10 for stress testing just because I've found it to be a nice/quick test for reasonable stability. It's not perfect, but it has always given me a good idea when I'm close, and if I can't pass CB10 it ain't stable!



As you can see from the SS, temps are starting to become a problem (circled in red).

I have to say, I'm still really impressed by those core clocks though!
I'm hesitant to move this board to the main rig (replacing my GBT 790X-UD4P), but these tests are starting to impress me!
The main rig has good water cooling and I'm sure I could lower those temps by at least 7c which may give me a little more Voltage headroom...

Considering this is a new board/chipset and early Bios I'm really happy with the results so far!

Oh well, off to push the IMC (seemed very weak on my chip with the UD4P)....

[chew*]

I’d say run what you have at hand be it air, water, dice or LN2 cooling. I think Simon knows that only a few guys can run extreme cooling. It looks to me like chew and Msimax are just trying to see how far this IGP can clock and that’s great I’m interested in knowing how far the IGP can clock myself after all this is the XS forum.
I wouldn’t let it bother me I’ll still get what I can get out of the MB with the cooling I have at hand and I think you guys should also. I’m not trying to tell anyone what to do but how about running the benches I ran in my stock clock benching post? If not let’s make up a list of benches we all would like to bench maybe a total of four or five different tests?

To be honest yes we were testing the IGP abilities/bug reporting some stuff on ASUS.

No need on gigabyte as i already did some testing with performance and everything worked fine.

Asus has a problem with certain ram dividers on current public but we wanted to see if you could still attain ram clocks while avoiding those certain speeds and if it affected performance.

The answer is it's not an issue and it seems ASUS has made major improvements with there boards abilities at sub 100C so far compared to past boards.

Next we will be testing cpu's at sub 100C.

[crazydiamond]

time for some not so xtreme air results

benching during march madness?? no problem!



now for my very intricate dual stage air cooling

stage 1: aim 100+ cfm delta at northbridge



stage 2: using fresh air outside, aim biggest fan you can find at delta from stage 1





and finally the results... instead of repeating the scores oldtimer already got using stock 4290/stock 965be, i decided to use the same overclock on cpu for stock 4290 vs overclocked 4290 results using same cpu speeds

all results have following cpu speed:

965be @ 4154mhz
nb @ 2769mhz
ram @ 1420mhz 7.7.7.21
htlink @ 2769mhz

stock 4290 settings are all w/ 700mhz core, 1333mhz sideport mem
overclocked 4290 settings are all w/ 1140mhz core, 1700mhz sideport mem

stock on the left, oc'd on the right

3dm06


vantage


cinebench 10


cinebench 11.5


crystalmark


performance test 7.0


geekbench


ut3 bench stock 4290 (avg 27fps, 17% of time above 30fps) - 1280x1024, both detail sliders @ 3 with settings choices 1 to 5


ut3 bench oc'd 4290 (avg 39fps, 98% of time above 30fps) - 1280x1024, both detail sliders @ 3 with settings choices 1 to 5




thats all i got for now, hopefully some colder results to follow somehow or another

[chew*]

Nice work man

[Titan7171]

time for some not so xtreme air results

benching during march madness?? no problem!



now for my very intricate dual stage air cooling

stage 1: aim 100+ cfm delta at northbridge



stage 2: using fresh air outside, aim biggest fan you can find at delta from stage 1





and finally the results... instead of repeating the scores oldtimer already got using stock 4290/stock 965be, i decided to use the same overclock on cpu for stock 4290 vs overclocked 4290 results using same cpu speeds

all results have following cpu speed:

965be @ 4154mhz
nb @ 2769mhz
ram @ 1420mhz 7.7.7.21
htlink @ 2769mhz

stock 4290 settings are all w/ 700mhz core, 1333mhz sideport mem
overclocked 4290 settings are all w/ 1140mhz core, 1700mhz sideport mem

stock on the left, oc'd on the right

3dm06


vantage


cinebench 10


cinebench 11.5


crystalmark


performance test 7.0


geekbench


ut3 bench stock 4290 (avg 27fps, 17% of time above 30fps) - 1280x1024, both detail sliders @ 3 with settings choices 1 to 5


ut3 bench oc'd 4290 (avg 39fps, 98% of time above 30fps) - 1280x1024, both detail sliders @ 3 with settings choices 1 to 5




thats all i got for now, hopefully some colder results to follow somehow or another

Wow man great results and love the format.

Vantage really beats the crap out of the IGP

Hey how do you overclock the IGP anywy you doing it through Overdrive?

[crazydiamond]

thanks chew* & titan - lol yes vantage was brutal,, i did all oc'ing in bios, just set it and went through all benches on a fresh boot, didnt change any settings whole time... probably could have went higher on the core if it wasnt for canyon flight i passed 3d06 before all tests @ 1150mhz core but canyon barely made it through so i backed back down to 1140mhz core, with that it was very stable for all of the benches

[theoldtimer]

Great results crazydiamond and Davebert. Crazydiamond how much NB voltage are you using.
In the Gigabyte bios is there a setting to adjust the voltage on the sideport memory? Is there a separate setting to adjust IGP voltage? So far on this MSI MB the only way I have been able to raise the IGP speed above 895MHz is to increase the NB voltage. So far I haven’t found any adjustable voltage setting for the IGP in the MSI bios.

Great results on the Asus MB chew and MSImax. I looked at the features of that MB the other day and I liked what I read.

[charged3800z24]

I need a place to buy dry ice. Do you guys have yours shipped to you or buy it locally somewhere?

[theoldtimer]

I need a place to buy dry ice. Do you guys have yours shipped to you or buy it locally somewhere?

I found this site one day last summer when I was thinking about trying dice. I really don’t know anything about them though. It’s worth a try I guess unless someone else has a better suggestion.

http://www.dryicedirectory.com/results.asp

[crazydiamond]

Great results crazydiamond and Davebert. Crazydiamond how much NB voltage are you using.
In the Gigabyte bios is there a setting to adjust the voltage on the sideport memory? Is there a separate setting to adjust IGP voltage? So far on this MSI MB the only way I have been able to raise the IGP speed above 895MHz is to increase the NB voltage. So far I haven’t found any adjustable voltage setting for the IGP in the MSI bios.

Great results on the Asus MB chew and MSImax. I looked at the features of that MB the other day and I liked what I read.

hey oldtimer, my nb did 1100mhz on 70f ambient air w/ delta on nb heatsink @ 1.5v,, so 1140mhz needed more than that i just left it at 1.54v for all the tests - 1.52v probably would have been enough - 1.5 would have been pushing it. in an earlier post i showed how my nb scaled on ambient - i think it was default voltage was enough for 900mhz, needed 1.44v for 1000mhz & 1.5v for 1100mhz, also, the giga has a specific setting for sideport mem listed with all the rest of the voltages

here is the 4290 bios screen & screen showing all the voltages... nb voltage & sideport voltage are what used to crank the 4290.

4290:


volts:

[theoldtimer]

Thanks crazydiamond. I’m thinking about taking my NB water block back off because so far it hasn’t helped the IGP clocks at all. I checked the contact pattern and it looked good during the test fit but now I’m wondering if the cooling lines are making the block lose contact with the IGP while in use? I needed 1.52v to the NB just to get the IGP stable @1000MHz.

I think I’ll reinstall the original air cooled NB block and retest.

I didn’t see any extra voltage controls in the gigabyte bios compared to the MSI at least not in the bios shots you posted.

[FlanK3r]

nice work Diamond !

[BeepBeep2]

Nice clocks crazydiamond, I could only get 950 on stock, 1025 @ 1.48 and 1050 @ 1.52 with a 105 CFM Panaflo and 103CFM Delta on my CPU.

[msimax]

thanks everyone i had fun benching igp. thanks to chew* for letting me come thru and abuse some hardware