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    First post updated

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    I need one of these (GTX 470)

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    Is it really hard to read last page? It was posted there already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picao84 View Post
    Is it really hard to read last page? It was posted there already.
    Yes it is, I didn't see the link to the article, but a link to the forums with a picture included. What's the point of your post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDiaz View Post
    Yes it is, I didn't see the link to the article, but a link to the forums with a picture included. What's the point of your post?
    Do you know the meaning of last page? In this page is the link to the forum with picture yes. But in last (page 9) the same link you posted is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDiaz View Post
    Yes it is, I didn't see the link to the article, but a link to the forums with a picture included. What's the point of your post?
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=198

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=223

    Please read before posting, that's all ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picao84 View Post
    Do you know the meaning of last page? In this page is the link to the forum with picture yes. But in last (page 9) the same link you posted is there.
    Do you know the meaning of previous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carfax View Post
    Talk about premature.. The HD 5800 series has been out since Q3 last year, and has had ample time to refine and optimize it's drivers.

    The same can't be said for Fermi though, and I can recall a few times when Nvidia has released drivers for their new cards which increased performance by as much as 30% across the board (Geforce 3 and Detonator 20xx drivers).

    I hope this happens with Fermi as well

    so your expecting epic drivers to create some magic performance boost ????


    do you want walt disney himself to come render each frame in real time while we are at it ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n View Post
    so your expecting epic drivers to create some magic performance boost ????


    do you want walt disney himself to come render each frame in real time while we are at it ????
    I think we are expecting actual benchmarks to show us the truth 26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightcover View Post
    Do you know the meaning of previous?
    Do you know last and previous are synonymous?

    Anyway, enough semantics

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightcover View Post
    i think we are expecting actual benchmarks to show us the truth 26.
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    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
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    holy (there should be a 4x button) 295w TDP? and only 5-10% better than 5870? along with higher price tag?

    forget it, you'll probably save enough on your energy bills with the 5870 to buy another (over a few years of course, no more than 10 though)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n View Post
    so your expecting epic drivers to create some magic performance boost ????


    do you want walt disney himself to come render each frame in real time while we are at it ????
    You make it seem like it's impossible, when it's already happened before.

    I gave a specific example even. Any long time buyer of Nvidia cards will remember when the Geforce 3 series first came out, it was barely faster than the Geforce 2 series that it was replacing.....until Nvidia released the new Detonator 20xx drivers that boosted performance by an average of 20 to 30%, and up to 40% and 50% in some cases..

    So yes, it can happen. Driver optimizations can make a huge difference in performance, especially if the architecture is radically different from the previous generation; which Fermi happens to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
    Well ... Another twelve's year old post from eric66. Bravo
    well.....another useless comment from olivon bravo
    Quote Originally Posted by LesGrossman View Post
    So for the last 3 months Nvidia talked about Uniengine and then Uniengine and more Uniengine and finally Uniengine. And then takes the best 5 seconds from all the benchmark run, makes a graph and then proudly shows it everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carfax View Post
    You make it seem like it's impossible, when it's already happened before.

    I gave a specific example even. Any long time buyer of Nvidia cards will remember when the Geforce 3 series first came out, it was barely faster than the Geforce 2 series that it was replacing.....until Nvidia released the new Detonator 20xx drivers that boosted performance by an average of 20 to 30%, and up to 40% and 50% in some cases..

    So yes, it can happen. Driver optimizations can make a huge difference in performance, especially if the architecture is radically different from the previous generation; which Fermi happens to be.
    Problem is that driver releases have matured a lot since the days of the GeForce 2/3. Major bosts in individual games certainly exist, but long-term performance improvements across the board are not in the 20-30% range any longer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vardant View Post
    I thought neliz was supposed to have inside info...seems like that's not the case, what a surprise
    He does have inside info, he just doesn't get it straight from Nvidia.
    I'm pretty sure of where he gets most of his info from.
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    Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.

    Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordEC911 View Post
    He does have inside info, he just doesn't get it straight from Nvidia.
    I'm pretty sure of where he gets most of his info from.
    You mean ATI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vardant View Post
    You mean ATI?
    That seems to be the most popular theory, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zerazax View Post
    Problem is that driver releases have matured a lot since the days of the GeForce 2/3. Major bosts in individual games certainly exist, but long-term performance improvements across the board are not in the 20-30% range any longer
    I don't know. Nvidia is a master of squeezing performance out of their cards with drivers..

    Even the G200 got some nice performance increases from driver optimizations, and it had way more similarities to the G80 and G90 cards, than Fermi will have to the G200..

    When I first bought my GTX 285, it was using the 17xxx drivers. After Nvidia released the 18xxx drivers, I noticed a significant improvement in performance in a lot of games, to the tune of 15% or so..

    These latest 19xxx are also very good, but the improvements are more specific than across the board..
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    Quote Originally Posted by trinibwoy View Post
    That seems to be the most popular theory, yes.
    That would only be some of his info.
    Originally Posted by motown_steve
    Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.

    Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.

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