The Fermi Thread - Part 3

[annihilat0r]

This is an obvious misinterpretation of a slide referring to 470. That is his own fault and indeed a mistake, but when it comes to 470, that info seems nearly spot on wouldn't you say?

Yeah it's pretty much spot on, except that the lower high end Fermi would have 448SP was pretty much common knowledge anyway, and after all he was mistaken.

written in February 20, 2010, early tests, early drivers, obviously performance will be better. And quite plausible that a chip with 512 shaders will not pull much higher clocks than the 625 Mhz from its 470 sibling, not unless it will push 300W.

Meh. So we can talk about numbers for an unfinished product like they will belong to the finished product? That way several months ago he could have written an article and say "wow there is no Fermi at the moment so there will never be any Fermi's". This is now how journalism works.

He claims you will be able to GET midrange Fermi in summer, but you will be able to get GF100 before that, just not in "quantities" which in Charlie language, means full availability.
His statement claims: low availability of GF100 until Q4, launch of midrange Fermi in summer. Full availability of both only in Q4.

His statement clearly says that this summer time will be "much sooner" than real GF100 availability, which means pretty much what I have said before.

[flippin_waffles]

Yeah it's pretty much spot on, except that the lower high end Fermi would have 448SP was pretty much common knowledge anyway, and after all he was mistaken.



Meh. So we can talk about numbers for an unfinished product like they will belong to the finished product? That way several months ago he could have written an article and say "wow there is no Fermi at the moment so there will never be any Fermi's". This is now how journalism works.




His statement clearly says that this summer time will be "much sooner" than real GF100 availability, which means pretty much what I have said before.

I guess we could use nv's numbers if you prefer. Availability in august, nope november, nope december, nope january, nope march, nope april.
80% faster than 5870, nope 50% nope 30% nope depends on 'application'. dx11 doesn't matter, nope it does matter.
fermi will allow home built supercomputers, nope we'll castrate DP to 1/8 full hardware specs.
fermi will be in top supercomputers, ORNL says not anymore. maybe later. more?

[Tim]

Can anybody actually show me the source/rumour of where it says that the GTX 480 will have 448SP?

Anything I have seen so far are rumours, still it's already being preached as the truth.

[Tim]

Can anybody actually show me the source/rumour of where it says that the GTX 480 will have 448SP?

Anything I have seen so far are rumours, still it's already being preached as the truth.

^^ Answer me this please.

[Sampsa]

^^ Answer me this please.

There is no rumor that GTX 480 would have 448 SP.

GTX 480 has been rumored to have either 480 or 512 SP.

[Picao84]

There is no rumor that GTX 480 would have 448 SP.

GTX 480 has been rumored to have either 480 or 512 SP.

Wrong. There was Charlie here:

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/12/...-fermi-448sps/

It was based on Tesla Models, which have 448 SP.

[tajoh111]

Wrong. There was Charlie here:

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/12/...-fermi-448sps/

It was based on Tesla Models, which have 448 SP.

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/...and-unfixable/

. For those not interested in the 'why' side of things, the short answer is that the top bin as it stands now is about 600MHz for the half hot clock, and 1200MHz for the hot clock, and the initial top part will have 448 shaders. On top of that, the fab wafer yields are still in single digit percentages.

So charlie has said 448 shaders, 480 shaders and 512 shaders for the gtx 480 of course he going to be right.

Charlie covers his bases by gatling gunning rumors especially the negative ones. His fans forget when he is wrong and like to stress when he is right.

[DosDuoNo]

Give a Monkey enough balls, it will eventually hit a goal, it doesnt mean it can play football

and to be fair charlie has had enough balls over the last 8 months.

i think we also need to seperate rumour from Fact from the Nvidia information, some of what you have there waffles was rumour, this is not Nvidias fault

[annihilat0r]

I guess we could use nv's numbers if you prefer. Availability in august, nope november, nope december, nope january, nope march, nope april.
80% faster than 5870, nope 50% nope 30% nope depends on 'application'. dx11 doesn't matter, nope it does matter.
fermi will allow home built supercomputers, nope we'll castrate DP to 1/8 full hardware specs.
fermi will be in top supercomputers, ORNL says not anymore. maybe later. more?

what the hell do Nvidia's statements have to do with what I said? I just laid out Charlie's claims, and to you guys who say he's a reliable source, let's wait and see how true his claims were.

You guys are just so used to seeing things from "sides" like political parties do. If I say something bad about Charlie this must mean that I have said something good about Nvidia which makes you say bad things about Nvidia so that it will counter the bad things I said for Charlie. ??

[highoctane]

you guys are just so used to seeing things from "sides" like political parties do. If i say something bad about charlie this must mean that i have said something good about nvidia which makes you say bad things about nvidia so that it will counter the bad things i said for charlie. ??

I think you hit the nail on the head!!