The Fermi Thread - Part 3

[Cybercat]

If it's only 20-25% faster overall, I consider that a failure.

[MrDiaz]

If it's only 20-25% faster overall, I consider that a failure.

At the same price point? I don't see how you consider that a failure (for us costumers anyway) If you are to expect a >50% performance increase at ~$500 price range you are seriously dreaming of a world that has yet to exist!

[Helloworld_98]

At the same price point? I don't see how you consider that a failure (for us costumers anyway) If you are to expect a >50% performance increase at ~$500 price range you are seriously dreaming of a world that has yet to exist!

you're forgetting that Nvidia put a load more R&D money into Fermi than ATi did with the 5xxx, and ATi can drop prices a LOT if they need/want to

[annihilat0r]

you're forgetting that Nvidia put a load more R&D money into Fermi than ATi did with the 5xxx, and ATi can drop prices a LOT if they need/want to

And you're forgetting that the 5xxx architecture is nothing new but it's a 2900xt with a lot more cores. You're also forgetting that the 2900xt was a design that took a lot of time, the 2900xt itself was late, hot, and underperforming. Yet now look at how that design made AMD the GPU leader in pretty much every price point right now.

I've got a feeling this will repeat in Nvidia this time.

[RPGWiZaRD]

If you are to expect a >50% performance increase at ~$500 price range you are seriously dreaming of a world that has yet to exist!

No1 said he expected >50% performance increase at $500, however there was probably a lot of people here that initially expected like 50% increase but at 600 - $650 or so. So it depends on your wallet if you concider this as a great thing or not if above prices would be true, for performance enthusiasts it's bad news but for the performance/price enthusiasts it would be good news.

[MrDiaz]

No1 said he expected >50% performance increase at $500, however there was probably a lot of people here that initially expected like 50% increase but at 600 - $650 or so.

I'm just looking at it from an "affordable" point of view. I'd rather pay the same price of the current 5000 series for 20-25% performance increase, specially better if you're looking to buy a powerful card these days.

[RPGWiZaRD]

I'm just looking at it from an "affordable" point of view. I'd rather pay the same price of the current 5000 series for 20-25% performance increase, specially better if you're looking to buy a powerful card these days.

So would I too but just saying there are prolly quite a lot of disappointed users here on XS if it's like only 20~25% faster. And no ATI would definitely drop prices significantly if above prices are to be expected so it won't have such an advantage. Compared to what prices were at launch of 5800 series and what they still are today (aren't they still like expensier ~ around same levels as at the launch, can't remember when such thing last time happened), I'd be SHOCKED if prices weren't lowered. AMD really price gauged as much as they possibly could this time around but when GTX 4xx series arrive you will probably start seeing the pricecuts.

[MrDiaz]

So would I too but just saying there are prolly quite a lot of disappointed users here on XS if it's like only 20~25% faster.

Well yeah if pricing is not an issue for people of course they would embrace the highest performance increase, who wouldn't?

I don't see myself (and I believe I speak as the majority of us) are willing to lay >$700 for a card!

[annihilat0r]

if it's like only 20~25% faster.

I doubt it's even going to be that much.

[MrDiaz]

I doubt it's even going to be that much.

Ready to bash nVidia if that isn't the minimum performance I see!

[Helloworld_98]

I'm just looking at it from an "affordable" point of view. I'd rather pay the same price of the current 5000 series for 20-25% performance increase, specially better if you're looking to buy a powerful card these days.

don't forget that a lot of people already have ati 5's, I'm not going to just but a 470 or 480 if it's only 20% better than CF 5770's when I can just pay £100 for the extra card over £300 for a replacement.

and that £200 could be put towards a next gen, water cooling or the Intel 980x/970

[Cybercat]

At the same price point? I don't see how you consider that a failure (for us costumers anyway) If you are to expect a >50% performance increase at ~$500 price range you are seriously dreaming of a world that has yet to exist!

The 5870 doesn't cost $500...

And whatever it costs now, expect it to drop some when this launches.

[individual]

If it's only 20-25% faster overall, I consider that a failure.

I agree, somewhat, where all the hype will fail to live up is a failure, but until they find a new cooling solution or move to quantum computing or vacuum computers then even the best chips won't increase by that much I don' think. An increase of 5% is still a big increase, especially if it happens exponentially to each previous card, which it seems to.